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you're in the paracast

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the gold standard of paranormal radio

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and now

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i know christopher o'brien that you are

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the polar opposite as being someone who

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likes hillary clinton but they're sure

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making a big deal of her alleged

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interest in getting to the bottom of

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ufos now they've got an article in the

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new york times did you see that

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no it's all it's all

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pandering uh to the to the masses

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it's bs

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i don't believe it a word of it

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she gets in there she'll say the same

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thing that bill did she'll say the same

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thing that

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jimmy carter did rag and all these

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people they get in there they get read

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the riot act and they say oh well

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there's nothing we can do and number one

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there's nothing to disclose we've talked

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about this i don't know how many times

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on the show

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it's probably all in the private sector

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elected officials

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have no need to know and there's nowhere

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to go with foia so you know people get

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off of it already it ain't gonna happen

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i kind of think here that people like

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steve bastet however are getting wet

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down there just considering the

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possibilities they're going to be

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vindicated my heavens

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well give the guy a freaking hanky then

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well all right

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and this tom delonge character coming

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along and

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blinking 181 times and expecting us to

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uh you know to genuflect at the altar of

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his 182nd blink it's bs gene i i don't

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believe a word of it it's steven greer

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all over again

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90 days i guarantee it 90 days

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and that was back in 94 i think or 93 uh

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94 maybe people have to get off their

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you know abdicate responsibility for the

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process to mommy and daddy it's just not

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going to happen of course you're saying

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here that the government is mommy and

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daddy but i think the grounds are

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littered with broken promises

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about ufo reality

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i know in last week's episode of after

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the power cast you said gene is not

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going to mention donald kehoe but that's

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where it started from he was talking

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about imminent disclosure in the 1950s

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it's going to happen the truth will be

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out there and of course every year it

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never happens but i was really surprised

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though that the new york times would

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pick up on this

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of all things

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because something like this as you say

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it's just an empty promise from a

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politician

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i really don't know what else to say

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i talked to lawrence rockefeller after

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the whole

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attempt by

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the disclosure folks berliner and and

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antonio neues and and greer and all

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these people they tried to get the

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clintons to uh you know pony up some

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sort of statement even which they never

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were able to receive and

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and rockefeller said that there's just

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no way that the government

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number one is ever going to say anything

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even if they had any sort of

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materials to disclose but he didn't

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think they did

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you know and i i absolutely agree with

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him i mean here we're talking you know

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20 years later i would also think if

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authority and power couldn't get to the

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bottom of it a politician beholden

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to private industry to fund her campaign

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is not going to fare any better beholden

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i think bent over is more accurate

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that's the whole political thing here

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even donald trump

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to run for president is going to need

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one and a half million dollars i don't

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know what he has you're saying he's

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really only one and a half billion

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dollars that's right one and a half

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billion dollars to stage a campaign

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and there are people out there who say

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that his claims of being worth 10

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billion

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are nonsense maybe a couple of hundred

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million that's why he doesn't disclose

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his taxes regardless every political

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candidate has to

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as you say bow down

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to the money people

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no bend over big difference well i

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didn't want to be as graphic you have

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this thing about anal

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well if you're a politician like hillary

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clinton taking all that money from wall

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street and all the uh the big packs and

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the big lobbyists she's bent over

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backwards how's that

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well she's learning new positions

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i couldn't i couldn't uh argue with that

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ah it's a lot of politicians

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i tell you

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meanwhile the kepler

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telescope has doubled the number of

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exoplanets

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it's recorded and more and more of those

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extraterrestrial life of course doesn't

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mean right

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or fermi's paradox seems to be uh

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come on gene you know what fermi's

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paradox is don't you

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this is a

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national radio show

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we have a couple of dozen radio stations

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they don't know about all this stuff

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you've got to answer for them

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stars out there so there's got to be

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googles or quadrillions of planets

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and so with all those planets out there

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and all those star systems out there we

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detect even the slightest hint of life

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that's the paradox the universe should

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be teeming with life we should have

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radio signals bouncing all over for seti

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to pick up or uh

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which

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that was

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said tongue-in-cheek

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um there should be some sort of sign of

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life out there right

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you would think with quadrillions

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upon quadrillions of planets

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in the universe we should have some

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indication of life right

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well we don't

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that's fermi's paradox

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so to speak

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teeming with life but we don't see it

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isn't that strange or maybe life

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is more of a rare commodity than we seem

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to believe or maybe the universe changes

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as we perceive it

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the reality changes

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so as soon as we discover the

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possibility of exoplanets there shall be

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more of them

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hey whatever you know

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i just

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hope people aren't holding their breath

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because they're gonna turn a really dark

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shade of purple before uh

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before anything out there lets us know

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that they're there or we happen to

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stumble upon

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evidence i'm holding my breath right now

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i hate to be a naysayer

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i hate to blow

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bubbles in your fruit punch out there

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listeners but

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hey

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it is what it is and it ain't what it

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we're going soul here

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this week we have

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another i guess fairly conventional look

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at ufos and ufo reality with a fellow

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named preston dennett

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now preston dennett wrote an article or

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two for my magazine caveat m tour back

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so he's been around forever

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well no it says here he started in 1986

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so he's a relative newcomer

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okay only 30 years

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yeah 1986 in fact the same year my son

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was born

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right so he's been around for 30 years

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forever in my book

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well be that as it may what's

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interesting about it

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is like a lot of us he either reads

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something about the subject or has an

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experience or

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is in the proximity of people who have

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an experience so his official bio says

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preston dennett began investigating ufos

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and the paranormal in 1986 when he

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discovered that his family

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friends and co-workers were having

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dramatic

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oh boy

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well we're just going to have to ask him

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about that

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going to be question number one

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he also has a book out called not from

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here i'm just trying to remember if i

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ever met him

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just trying to figure out if i i think i

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maybe he knows

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we'll ask him he's author of a new book

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called not from here selected ufo

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articles

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and it's got some strange titles here

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like conversations with

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extraterrestrials

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phone call from an alien

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ufo don't shoot

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alien zoo

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now the only zoo i see around here

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well how do i get back into politics

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we have preston dennett coming up next

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i know that a lot of our listeners are

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so i was saying to preston dennett and i

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think he just remembered that he once

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wrote for my magazine caveat mtor i was

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saying before we got started that

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when we do a show like this we try to

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avoid all extraneous sounds you know we

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don't want anything to indicate that

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we're anything but disembodied voices

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of course there are some people who take

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this is certainly an interesting way to

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introduce preston dennett to the power

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cast audience

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how come you haven't been on the show uh

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before what's up with that

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yeah i have no idea but um

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what about preston dennis i remember i

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think i'd i think i talked to you on

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facebook or something and said you know

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have you ever been on the show you

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haven't let's get you on the show and

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well we finally did yeah well i

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appreciate the opportunity i love

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talking about this stuff i'm really

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passionate about it been doing it a long

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time

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but yeah thanks for the invite

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now it says here in your bio that you

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first became interested in 1986 which is

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the birth year of grayson steinberg my

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wonderful son but there's no coincidence

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there involved but in 1986 people around

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you have

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getting all sorts of strange experiences

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can you tell us

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how you discovered this did you see

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something strange or just talking to

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people or what um no i never saw

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anything growing up very skeptical of

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this subject and i thought my family was

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and pretty much everyone around me it

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turned out that they were keeping

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secrets from me um about their

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encounters and how it all unraveled is

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i heard this report on the news about

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this setting over alaska i'm sure you

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know about this case uh japanese air

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commercial airliner was

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followed by ufo for

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40 or 50 miles

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yeah really a really good case radar

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returns and everything they nev didn't

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say anything like that on the news it

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was just very tongue-in-cheek they

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laughed nervously about it and moved on

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but i thought my god this pilot is out

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of his mind if he says he's being

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followed by a ufo

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i thought he was you know seeing a

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reflection off the ice cap or on drugs

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or something that's when i asked

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people at work about it

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and the lady who i worked with you know

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for gosh five or ten years at least

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i knew her very well she's like oh yeah

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me my whole family we watched this light

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this object darting back and forth over

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the san bernardino mountains when we

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were camping like you kidding you've got

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to be kidding me she's like no and in

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walks dorothy who i'd also worked with

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for years and she's like oh i had a ufo

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sighting with my best friend and my mom

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it followed us home from the library

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she says you know what's weird preston

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takes us five minutes to get home from

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the library but somehow it took an hour

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and of course that's a red flag as you

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know now but so this is what i was

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jumping into i'm full on

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face-to-face encounters abductions

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missing time hybrid babies

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all within my

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circle of family friends and co-workers

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that's pretty interesting and of course

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this is all pre-ex-files so we can't

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blame it on

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some sort of cultural meme propagation

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here or can we to a certain extent

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probably but uh i mean this is before

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bud hopkins book became a best seller

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missing time this was before you know

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intruders

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before you know whitley streeter had

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come out with his book

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why don't you give us a thumbnail sketch

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of uh some of the

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claims by friends neighbors uh

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associates and that sort of thing

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was it all grouped together in the same

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time frame where

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were you all

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in the same basic proximity to one

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another uh give us you know set the

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stage and then give us kind of a

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thumbnail sketch

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right no it was

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pretty much from a wide variety of areas

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and times and you know not good news

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this really hit me like a ton of bricks

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i found out that my brother

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had seen a metallic object with colored

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lights on it a dome on top

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was hovering then start darting back and

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forth his two friends were there and

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they chased this thing for like 10 or 20

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miles

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across the san fernando valley here

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um

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and uh

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could not explain it

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and i ended up interviewing all three of

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them later

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they passed several other cars who are

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also chasing and watching this object

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so i mean there's one case another guy

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let's see uh

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my sister-in-law

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she said that she was out well she had

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two sightings actually she had a

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sighting over van nuys air force reserve

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base with two friends where they watched

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these glowing lights

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i'm hovering back and forth i ended up

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interviewing them

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and she also told me she says you know i

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saw something i don't know what it was

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and she proceeded to describe this

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really amazing face-to-face encounter

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with gray type e.t in short she was

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walking by stag street elementary school

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and saw what she thought were two

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children

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wearing masks or something it was late

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at night and she's like well that's

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weird and why are they bald and they're

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wearing jumpsuits and she walked up to

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about 10 10 feet away from them when

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they turned and kind of swiveled and

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looked right at her she's like oh

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you know these are not children um they

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had big bald heads large dark eyes

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a green jumpsuit with little mandarin

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collars

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and she described it vividly and she

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said she didn't want to panic so she

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just walked away as fast as she could

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well did this coincide with a wave of

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activity have you talked to ann druffle

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about this uh

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what does her log say

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was this all in the same time period in

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86 or

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they were most of these were in the 70s

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and 80s yeah there was a few cases i

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uncovered that were earlier i wasn't

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able to

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link them up to any particular

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ufo wave

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topanga canyon

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which was which was enormous but uh

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right

530
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just

531
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i found out that really

532
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it was over a time for you then

533
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and and then you just happened to find

534
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out about all these stories once you

535
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found out about one and kind of opened

536
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the floodgates it sounded like yeah you

537
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know i think the thing is people don't

538
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talk about this i always tell people if

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you're skeptical of ufos

540
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i d i challenge you

541
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to actually

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ask everyone you know and trust people

543
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that you know are not gonna lie to you

544
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and ask have they ever had an

545
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unexplained experience you know leave it

546
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open don't necessarily say ufos because

547
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sometimes people don't even realize

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that that is is what they're seeing

549
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and i will bet you that people you know

550
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within your circle family friends

551
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:05,919
probably had some really dramatic

552
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encounters

553
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no well so how did that change your

554
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thinking i mean what

555
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what

556
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did you do at this point did you

557
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become an investigator or did you just

558
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start collecting stories or

559
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become active out in the field i mean

560
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how did that impact your thinking

561
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well it was true you know i was

562
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scandalized this was like i said not

563
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good news i couldn't believe it this was

564
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not taught in schools

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and the more i began to research it

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the evidence was showing that it was

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real so i started reading the books

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um i started subscribing to magazines

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um before i knew i was doing formal

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interviews i just really had to find out

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if this was real or not

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and it didn't take me too long to figure

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out that it was i joined ufo groups i

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became a field investigator

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i wrote an article for the local paper

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outlining a couple sightings they put it

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on the cover wow you know this is

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amazing

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now let me ask you a question here

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because you've written so much material

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since 1986

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did you work as a writer before you got

583
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into this

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no not really i had you know written

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tried to write some science fiction

586
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stories was not really able to do it

587
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so i kind of gave that up

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um but i you know went to college i was

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very interested in science and astronomy

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anthropology things like this so that's

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mostly what i was studying

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let's do our break here and we'll

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continue we have preston dennett and by

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the way he has a book a collection of

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essays out called not from here and

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we'll talk about some of that in further

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we're talking to preston dennett

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he's telling us how he first got

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involved in ufo research back in 86

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when he learned that people around him

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had those experiences almost like it was

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deliberate that you learned this and

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suddenly you're dragged into this field

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kicking and screaming did you ever feel

731
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you were being manipulated

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i wondered about that and i still wonder

733
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about that you know i grew up in topanga

734
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canyon and what is the chances of a

735
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giant ufo wave happening literally right

736
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over where i

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lived i had just moved out into the san

738
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fernando valley right after right when

739
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it occurred but and the number of

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coincidences

741
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are at least at least you weren't camped

742
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in a tent

743
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in your parents backyard in topanga

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canyon like what the heck's his name

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david serrata when an orb

746
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i think came in his tent and said it was

747
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jesus and uh you're a man on a mission

748
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david

749
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at least that didn't happen to you boy

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i'd hate to see what you you'd be like

751
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you never know

752
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uh the whole ufo phenomenon does have a

753
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lot of

754
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really high strangeness to it do you

755
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know uh serena uh having grown up in the

756
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same canyon

757
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no i've met him you know i do know him

758
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um but i didn't growing up no i did not

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know he lived there

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personally if i knew he lived there i'd

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move

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well you know it's interesting that we

763
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both grew up in the same area and became

764
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well i'm not sure if he grew up there

765
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but his parents lived there when he had

766
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his

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supposed

768
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jesus as orb experience in the backyard

769
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when he was there living in a tent

770
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seemed to remember all these details

771
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from quite a number of years ago when we

772
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were trying to interview him and uh

773
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because he wasn't all dressed in white

774
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he was very reluctant to be interviewed

775
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and of course anybody in video knows

776
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that you never have your talent dressed

777
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in white because it screws up the white

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balance and makes it really difficult to

779
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uh

780
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but anyway i digress so taponga canyon

781
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uh let's see who else lived there uh i

782
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think bob dylan didn't he have a house

783
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up on the oh there was a bunch of

784
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musicians and actors right the guy from

785
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robin williams

786
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right he lived there

787
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face gourmet was there for many years

788
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the eagles woody guthrie yeah there's a

789
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bunch of them it was a pretty

790
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interesting place to grow up you started

791
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writing when you got involved in ufos

792
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what is your day job

793
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i do bookkeeping

794
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medical billing company and pays the

795
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bills it's excruciatingly boring but i

796
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love the people and you know the job's

797
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not bad

798
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it's not really my passion i've really

799
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enjoyed doing this

800
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don't make a whole lot of money at it

801
00:30:54,630 --> 00:30:52,399
but um enough to kind of pay for my

802
00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:54,640
habit well at least it keeps you out of

803
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trouble what do they think of you at

804
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:58,000
work you're just the quiet guy with the

805
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secret life or what

806
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:03,200
they're very accepting um i think that

807
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:04,640
people are are often a little bit

808
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:07,360
surprised but uh the knowledge spreads

809
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pretty fast that if

810
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you have had an unexplained experience

811
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:12,720
if you've seen a ufo

812
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yeah the bookkeeper over there in his

813
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little office is the guy to talk to and

814
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:18,159
i've gotten a number of really

815
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:20,320
interesting reports from people at work

816
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:23,279
actually i remember when one lady

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really a nice friend i

818
00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:26,720
still talk to her

819
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she no longer works there but her name

820
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is connie

821
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and she walked into my office and at

822
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:34,000
that time i had these little statues of

823
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:36,640
various et's that from a gift that

824
00:31:41,029 --> 00:31:38,720
someone had given me and you know four

825
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or five of them one of them was a gray

826
00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:43,360
and she sees it and screams she's like

827
00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:45,600
ah you know what is that she's pointing

828
00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:47,600
to it and i'm like that

829
00:31:51,269 --> 00:31:49,360
what do you think it is she says i don't

830
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:51,279
know but i saw something just like that

831
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:53,120
right after i had my baby and she told

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00:31:57,190 --> 00:31:54,559
me this really interesting encounter you

833
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:57,200
know where this gray type e.t came up to

834
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:00,320
her window and was staring at her baby

835
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:02,720
she jumped up to protect her baby when

836
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:04,320
this force

837
00:32:09,269 --> 00:32:06,559
pasted her to the bed held her down and

838
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,279
this e.t just kept staring at her baby

839
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:11,120
trying to get it through the window now

840
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:13,279
this is a window that doesn't open

841
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:14,640
so i don't know why i didn't just you

842
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:16,080
know walk through the wall like they

843
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:19,200
supposedly can do or what have you but

844
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:21,039
no it just stood there stared at the

845
00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:24,240
baby for a good you know few minutes

846
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:26,000
and then walked off

847
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:27,760
scared her so bad she ended up moving

848
00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:29,760
out of that house well i certainly

849
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:31,279
wouldn't want to visit that house you

850
00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:32,880
know i was thinking about this chris and

851
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:35,039
maybe it's because i'm a hermit and that

852
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:35,919
is

853
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:37,760
i think i've only been

854
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:40,240
in and around a haunted house exactly

855
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:41,519
once

856
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:44,159
all right that brings up

857
00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:46,960
bring silence do paytel for a brief

858
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:49,519
period of time nothing special i didn't

859
00:32:54,149 --> 00:32:52,480
see anything unusual i think phenomena

860
00:32:56,630 --> 00:32:54,159
passes me by

861
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,640
that's a problem weird stuff

862
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,799
it doesn't happen to me

863
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:00,720
i think you're scared away if you really

864
00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:03,279
want to know the truth

865
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:06,559
yeah i've been seeking it out you know

866
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:07,600
hunting

867
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:10,399
down in ufo hot spots and i have to tell

868
00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:11,840
you when i started investigating this

869
00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:14,399
stuff i had not seen anything but right

870
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:17,840
after i started i started seeing ufos

871
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:20,000
not regularly but certainly i've had a

872
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:23,519
number of encounters over the years what

873
00:33:28,070 --> 00:33:25,840
maybe what you should do here is tell us

874
00:33:30,070 --> 00:33:28,080
about some of the more significant

875
00:33:32,310 --> 00:33:30,080
encounters that you've had anything you

876
00:33:34,230 --> 00:33:32,320
know something that really has some some

877
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:34,240
meat and potatoes to it not just lights

878
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:36,559
in the sky what do you think is the most

879
00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:39,600
unusual experience you've had with ufos

880
00:33:44,470 --> 00:33:42,080
um well there's been a few that are

881
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,480
clearly unusual i remember probably the

882
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:46,480
one of the earliest ones i was driving

883
00:33:50,470 --> 00:33:48,559
home from my sister-in-law's having

884
00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:50,480
just talked about ufos intensely for

885
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:51,679
hours

886
00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:53,360
and

887
00:33:57,669 --> 00:33:56,240
suddenly this little ball of light an

888
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,679
orb

889
00:34:01,430 --> 00:33:59,279
drops down out of the sky and is

890
00:34:03,830 --> 00:34:01,440
hovering right in front of my windshield

891
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:03,840
right about a foot and starting back and

892
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:05,440
forth a couple of times

893
00:34:09,430 --> 00:34:07,279
and i'm looking at going what you know

894
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:09,440
thinking that's not a bird it looks like

895
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:11,280
a golf ball what is this

896
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:12,800
it's glowing

897
00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:15,520
and uh it kind of swoops down a little

898
00:34:19,270 --> 00:34:16,960
bit and goes straight up through the

899
00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:19,280
canopy and trees and up into outer space

900
00:34:25,030 --> 00:34:21,760
i mean that's how it looked

901
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:25,040
and i'm like wow you know what was that

902
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:27,200
i didn't talk about it kind of forgot

903
00:34:31,510 --> 00:34:30,240
about it actually um for a while but i

904
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:31,520
still remember it

905
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:33,599
but i'm going to say the best one

906
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:35,679
i was interviewing this lady i'll call

907
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:37,679
her wendy and she was having these

908
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:39,520
extraordinary encounters she said that

909
00:34:44,069 --> 00:34:41,760
she had not only seen ufos her neighbors

910
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:44,079
had seen ufos her family she had a lot

911
00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:46,240
of witnesses to support her story she

912
00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:47,520
said she was having abduction

913
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:50,159
experiences that were fully conscious

914
00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:52,320
um a couple of times she'd wake up

915
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:54,399
during abduction and say you have no

916
00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:57,680
right to do this to the these gray et's

917
00:35:01,670 --> 00:34:59,280
say take me back

918
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:01,680
and they would take her back to her room

919
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:04,160
and so just a lot of really intense

920
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,599
experiences

921
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:07,440
and

922
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:09,680
she's i'm like if everyone around you

923
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:11,920
has seen a ufo i want to see one she

924
00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:13,680
says okay i'll see if i can

925
00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:16,240
talk to the et's telepathically and see

926
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,240
if we can set up a sighting

927
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:19,920
and so i've been through this before so

928
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:22,000
i wasn't really too

929
00:35:26,230 --> 00:35:23,920
you know

930
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:26,240
sure anything was going to happen

931
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,400
but i she's called me up she says yeah

932
00:35:33,430 --> 00:35:30,560
they're ready um here's the tie-in place

933
00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:33,440
that we go and this was right off the

934
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:36,480
uh 210 freeway here in pasadena

935
00:35:39,750 --> 00:35:38,240
just this little dirt road you're not

936
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,760
even really supposed to park off the

937
00:35:42,150 --> 00:35:41,280
freeway but we did

938
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,160
i took

939
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:45,200
her wendy my sister-in-law and

940
00:35:49,510 --> 00:35:47,280
uh my nephew and all four of us were

941
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:49,520
tromping up this dirt road

942
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:51,359
those two fell behind so i was just with

943
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:53,040
wendy when we reached the crest of this

944
00:35:54,710 --> 00:35:53,920
hill

945
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:54,720
and

946
00:36:01,109 --> 00:36:00,160
about 50 feet away from us was this

947
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:01,119
giant

948
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:04,000
sphere it was covered with golden lights

949
00:36:07,510 --> 00:36:05,280
it was about

950
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:07,520
20 30 feet off the ground

951
00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:10,400
about as big as a house large perfectly

952
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:13,280
round and just beautiful absolutely

953
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:15,839
unexplained totally silent we're

954
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:18,240
screaming and jumping up and down

955
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:20,880
i could not believe it i mean it was

956
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:23,040
enormous and this thing just hovers

957
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:24,240
there

958
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:25,119
um

959
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:26,400
and

960
00:36:30,790 --> 00:36:29,839
very quickly around the side of the

961
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,800
mountain

962
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:32,640
to a place that we had no chance of

963
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:35,119
following it um and we were like oh wow

964
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:37,520
i mean that was absolutely unexplained

965
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:39,200
let's continue with this

966
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:41,200
account in our next segment

967
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:42,880
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968
00:36:53,710 --> 00:36:52,790
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preston dennett has stories

1072
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and more stories

1073
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personal encounters encounters about

1074
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:20,000
people that he's met tell us more about

1075
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:21,599
the one you started in our previous

1076
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:22,960
segment

1077
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,000
yeah so there was this giant sphere

1078
00:41:31,589 --> 00:41:28,480
appeared really close to us i mean this

1079
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:31,599
was closer than any aircraft that flying

1080
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:32,640
in the sky

1081
00:41:37,349 --> 00:41:34,880
would normally get to you and at any

1082
00:41:38,950 --> 00:41:37,359
rate i mean it was 50 feet away

1083
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:38,960
and just the most beautiful thing i've

1084
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:40,880
ever seen covered with these golden

1085
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:42,800
scintillating lights

1086
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,960
and we screened we jumped up and down i

1087
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:47,040
completely ignored my camera around my

1088
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:51,040
uh neck there hanging there inches away

1089
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,520
and this thing just scooted away scooted

1090
00:41:57,030 --> 00:41:55,520
away slowly at first and then darted

1091
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:57,040
around the mountain

1092
00:42:01,750 --> 00:41:59,040
and you know that's not the only ufo she

1093
00:42:03,990 --> 00:42:01,760
showed me she did that to me again

1094
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:04,000
so this proved to me that this lady is

1095
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:05,839
for real and uh

1096
00:42:08,790 --> 00:42:06,960
yeah i've had a number of weird

1097
00:42:09,990 --> 00:42:08,800
sightings kind of that's the best one

1098
00:42:11,829 --> 00:42:10,000
hands down

1099
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:11,839
over the years you know hanging out with

1100
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:14,079
people or having these experiences i

1101
00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:17,440
think it rubs off on you a little bit

1102
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:21,359
yeah uh i can kind of identify with that

1103
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,839
you know i'm i've been looking through

1104
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:25,680
your your bibliography here are books

1105
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:27,280
you've written and you've

1106
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,560
you've really covered the state of

1107
00:42:33,109 --> 00:42:30,480
california probably

1108
00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:33,119
more than any other investigator

1109
00:42:37,750 --> 00:42:35,760
researcher author

1110
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,760
you've written quite a number of books

1111
00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:39,440
on california probably i think more than

1112
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:40,960
any other

1113
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:42,880
paranormal or ufo author correct me if

1114
00:42:46,870 --> 00:42:44,720
i'm wrong on that

1115
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:46,880
but i i love your

1116
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,400
ufos over series because i remember

1117
00:42:57,190 --> 00:42:52,880
reading ufos over new mexico and i think

1118
00:43:02,790 --> 00:42:59,510
what's the other one i think is

1119
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:02,800
nevada yeah nevada of course um

1120
00:43:05,349 --> 00:43:03,920
and

1121
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:05,359
you know i think for someone that that

1122
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:06,400
has

1123
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:09,520
is as prolific as you are

1124
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:11,440
you know it's it's funny how um you

1125
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:13,119
don't really attempt to

1126
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:14,960
create a cult of personality around

1127
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:17,440
yourself and you kind of keep a low key

1128
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:20,000
you've been on tons of of tv shows in

1129
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,520
fact i think we were on a tv show

1130
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:23,760
together weren't we

1131
00:43:29,829 --> 00:43:27,680
jesse ventura's conspiracy theory on the

1132
00:43:30,870 --> 00:43:29,839
skinwalker ranch case if i remember

1133
00:43:32,950 --> 00:43:30,880
correctly i think you were in that

1134
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:32,960
weren't you right yeah

1135
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:35,359
yeah what'd you think about that how it

1136
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,800
ended up after

1137
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:38,480
25 plus

1138
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:41,760
re-edits and eight months of delay

1139
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:43,280
and then what did you think of that

1140
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:46,160
final product when it came out

1141
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:48,160
well you know i've been on tv a number

1142
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:49,839
of times and

1143
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:50,640
um

1144
00:43:54,790 --> 00:43:52,800
i'm always edited to a certain extent

1145
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:54,800
that i disagree with

1146
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:55,920
because they can pretty much make you

1147
00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:58,000
say whatever you they want you to say

1148
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,920
well in my case they had me say the

1149
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:01,760
exact opposite of what i said not once

1150
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:03,680
but twice

1151
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:05,200
so yeah that's kind of what i'm hinting

1152
00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:07,040
at i mean i know people who won't even

1153
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:09,920
go on tv because they're disgusted with

1154
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:11,920
it i remember once i was approached by

1155
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:14,000
the news and they came to film me about

1156
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,760
this wave in topanga and i'm showing

1157
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:18,000
them where this ufo landed

1158
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,359
and they're pointing to these gopher

1159
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:21,280
holes and there said are those the

1160
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:23,520
landing marks i'm like no those are

1161
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:25,200
gopher halls

1162
00:44:27,910 --> 00:44:26,560
and then they say well would you stick

1163
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:27,920
your hand in there and say that those

1164
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:31,920
are landing marks i'm like no i won't

1165
00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:33,839
it what was that

1166
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:43,349
i keep learning this lesson over and

1167
00:44:46,470 --> 00:44:44,480
over again

1168
00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:46,480
some shows treat me really well i have

1169
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:49,599
to say unsealed did a pretty good job

1170
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:52,480
yeah but uh even they i'm like that's

1171
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,839
not the question you asked me and you're

1172
00:44:57,109 --> 00:44:55,920
putting up a different answer

1173
00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:57,119
so

1174
00:45:03,510 --> 00:45:00,240
one of the the least offensive

1175
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:03,520
uh shows i think in ufo files as well

1176
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:06,079
i found they did a fairly good job

1177
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:07,280
but uh

1178
00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:08,880
yeah uh

1179
00:45:13,430 --> 00:45:11,040
i got in so much trouble

1180
00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:13,440
after that jesse ventura show of course

1181
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,800
we went through the trials and the

1182
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:16,560
tribulations here on the prayer cast i

1183
00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:19,839
think at the time but uh to be frank and

1184
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:21,760
quoted like that and to have

1185
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,480
a person say the exact opposite of what

1186
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:26,400
they actually said i mean

1187
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:30,560
i looked for every uh angle i could

1188
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:32,160
to legally go after them and

1189
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:33,520
unfortunately they were able to cover

1190
00:45:38,870 --> 00:45:34,880
their

1191
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:38,880
it just wouldn't have been

1192
00:45:43,270 --> 00:45:41,920
boy i got in trouble

1193
00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:43,280
when you have

1194
00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:45,359
cia people and

1195
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:47,760
other spooky types

1196
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:49,359
dogging you

1197
00:45:54,069 --> 00:45:51,680
george and app got all huffy with me and

1198
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:54,079
uh it just

1199
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:56,160
was terrible

1200
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:57,760
yeah how do you keep out of the

1201
00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:00,480
limelight and keep producing uh a good

1202
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:02,400
quality work like this i mean i like

1203
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:04,079
you've been published by quite a number

1204
00:46:07,430 --> 00:46:06,000
of different publishers and

1205
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:07,440
and you seem to always have a book

1206
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:09,599
coming out you've got what over 20 books

1207
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:13,200
now and i see uh uh ufos over arizona is

1208
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:14,480
coming out soon

1209
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,720
when when is the application

1210
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:18,960
that should be the end of this year um

1211
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:21,440
with by shiffer bucks who has done a lot

1212
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:24,880
of the whole ufo's over series right um

1213
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:26,640
so yeah i'm pretty happy with them i

1214
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:29,440
don't get a huge royalty really or

1215
00:46:33,349 --> 00:46:30,720
not

1216
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:33,359
ask me about my my uh sighting or

1217
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,599
sightings i should say

1218
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:37,440
well there's

1219
00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:39,040
south sedona

1220
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:40,800
way too many sightings to include in one

1221
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:42,800
book honestly it's

1222
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:45,119
there are some i mean 100 people report

1223
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:46,319
their sighting

1224
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:52,150
and phoenix kind of steals all the uh

1225
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:54,720
all the limelight but but yeah to answer

1226
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,960
your question you know i

1227
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:58,560
became very interested in this subject

1228
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:59,440
um

1229
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,680
loved writing about it and didn't quite

1230
00:47:06,309 --> 00:47:03,839
realize that you know writing books

1231
00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:06,319
causes you to go on the radio and on tv

1232
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:08,480
and then you speaking at conventions

1233
00:47:11,670 --> 00:47:10,560
and uh which i'm happy to do

1234
00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:11,680
but uh

1235
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:13,839
you know i have a full-time job so this

1236
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:14,560
is

1237
00:47:19,990 --> 00:47:17,920
a hobby

1238
00:47:22,150 --> 00:47:20,000
um certainly

1239
00:47:23,829 --> 00:47:22,160
um has the potential i think at some

1240
00:47:25,829 --> 00:47:23,839
point i probably will be doing this full

1241
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:25,839
time

1242
00:47:29,670 --> 00:47:27,760
but uh yeah i have never really stopped

1243
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:29,680
publicity i've never really you know

1244
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:31,119
tried to get on these tv shows or

1245
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:32,800
anything like that

1246
00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:35,200
um but there's been a lot of i don't

1247
00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:37,520
know guidance or coincidence

1248
00:47:42,069 --> 00:47:38,880
and

1249
00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:42,079
the path was just paved to getting this

1250
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:44,480
information out there right

1251
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:48,000
and had some you know great success with

1252
00:47:51,430 --> 00:47:50,000
ufos over topanga

1253
00:47:53,190 --> 00:47:51,440
that book was probably one of my more

1254
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:53,200
popular i think that was the first one i

1255
00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:54,800
read of yours

1256
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,040
um and uh yeah just have been going

1257
00:48:01,190 --> 00:47:59,599
nonstop i love it you know and one thing

1258
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:01,200
leads to another it's not just about

1259
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:03,680
ufos i've been written quite a bit about

1260
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:06,160
paranormal stuff as well right right now

1261
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:07,680
to body

1262
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:09,680
right i think you had a book about

1263
00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:12,720
out-of-body experiences if i remember

1264
00:48:17,349 --> 00:48:15,599
my first book actually was ufo healings

1265
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:17,359
and uh that was the first book to

1266
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:19,599
examine healing cases as a result of a

1267
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:21,040
ufo encounter

1268
00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:21,839
i

1269
00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:32,319
contacted a bunch of researchers and

1270
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:35,920
ended up uncovering about 100 cases

1271
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:38,160
so wow so uh i

1272
00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:39,760
mean are we talking

1273
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:42,880
slam dunk medical evidence uh you know

1274
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:45,839
or is this just all anecdotal claims

1275
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:48,400
um varies there are probably

1276
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:52,400
10 or 20 super solid cases you know with

1277
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:54,720
there's one where we have the before and

1278
00:49:00,230 --> 00:48:57,280
after x-rays showing assist

1279
00:49:02,710 --> 00:49:00,240
then it it's gone and in the interim

1280
00:49:04,630 --> 00:49:02,720
there was a ufo encounter it's very hard

1281
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:04,640
to explain otherwise another

1282
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:06,880
good case uh let's see

1283
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:09,760
was uh ventura maseras this guy in

1284
00:49:13,430 --> 00:49:11,200
brazil

1285
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:13,440
who had a ufo shine this beam of light

1286
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:14,880
on him

1287
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:16,960
and uh he had

1288
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:19,440
some kind of radiation type sickness at

1289
00:49:21,670 --> 00:49:20,400
first

1290
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:21,680
some burns

1291
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:23,359
and uh that sort of thing but ended up

1292
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:24,800
growing a

1293
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:27,280
another set of teeth

1294
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,760
wow all things right

1295
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:31,599
he ended up being examined by like 50

1296
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:34,559
doctors a bunch of ufo researchers

1297
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:36,240
government officials

1298
00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:37,839
and uh there was a lot of evidence in

1299
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:40,240
support of his case other witnesses

1300
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:42,640
um and uh things like this landing

1301
00:49:45,670 --> 00:49:44,240
traces

1302
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:45,680
so it's a really good case and there's a

1303
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:48,000
number of where was that brazil

1304
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:49,440
yeah

1305
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:51,280
well brazil of course is famous for the

1306
00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:54,160
claris cases where i think up to 17

1307
00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:55,440
people were

1308
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:56,839
uh

1309
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:00,160
reportedly injured severely or killed by

1310
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:01,920
ufo encounters

1311
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:03,520
the mouth of the amazon and on the

1312
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:05,680
island of claris

1313
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:07,440
yeah some outstanding medical evidence

1314
00:50:11,589 --> 00:50:09,119
and very

1315
00:50:13,589 --> 00:50:11,599
dangerous the chupas yeah i'm aware of

1316
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:13,599
the as well

1317
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,839
i had no idea there were some uh you

1318
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:18,000
know miraculous healings down there as

1319
00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:20,400
well when when did that uh particular

1320
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:21,760
case occur

1321
00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:24,000
um that was back i'd have to look it up

1322
00:50:29,589 --> 00:50:26,800
exactly late 50s early 60s okay so it

1323
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:29,599
was a while ago oh yeah back when ufos

1324
00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:35,270
yeah things are evolving over the years

1325
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:37,839
i think i mean initially in the

1326
00:50:42,870 --> 00:50:40,960
beginning of the modern ufo age 1947 we

1327
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:42,880
have this huge super wave

1328
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:44,079
and i'm going to say that that's pretty

1329
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:46,480
much unprecedented yes we've had ufo

1330
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:47,599
waves

1331
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:50,319
throughout history 73 was pretty intense

1332
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,880
but uh i mean starting then until now to

1333
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,800
the present day we've this has never

1334
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,400
really happened before in history we've

1335
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:58,720
never had this kind of levels of ufo

1336
00:51:01,510 --> 00:51:00,000
activity

1337
00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:01,520
and it seems to be escalating i don't

1338
00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:03,680
think the ufos are going to go away but

1339
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:05,040
what started out with sightings now

1340
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:06,400
they're landing i mean they're taking

1341
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:09,440
people on board they're crashing

1342
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:11,520
we're reverse engineering them this

1343
00:51:14,710 --> 00:51:13,280
whole situation is just

1344
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:14,720
explosive you really think our

1345
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:16,000
government has

1346
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:18,319
crashed saucers or

1347
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:20,079
craft from uh

1348
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:22,960
someplace other than here and that we

1349
00:51:27,430 --> 00:51:25,280
have been back engineering them

1350
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:27,440
have you seen any sort of evidence to

1351
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:28,640
support that

1352
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:31,119
we'll have more with gene and chris and

1353
00:51:43,870 --> 00:51:42,950
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1389
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:56,800
only on advertisement services may not

1390
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:58,000
be available in all states attention

1391
00:53:01,990 --> 00:53:00,160
zarato users if you or a loved one took

1392
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:02,000
xarelto and suffered a serious bleeding

1393
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:03,680
event you may be entitled to financial

1394
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:05,680
compensation xarelto is a popular

1395
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:06,880
prescription blood thinner used to

1396
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:08,559
prevent blood clots and protect patients

1397
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:09,920
from strokes these serious bleeding

1398
00:53:13,109 --> 00:53:11,359
events have led to numerous cases of

1399
00:53:15,710 --> 00:53:13,119
hospitalization and even death phone

1400
00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:15,720
lines are open 24 7. call

1401
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:19,680
800-261-0937 that's 800-261-0937

1402
00:53:23,670 --> 00:53:21,359
looking for that edge during those

1403
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:23,680
intimate moments we see many ads for

1404
00:53:28,230 --> 00:53:25,520
enhancement but the side effects include

1405
00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:28,240
death at gcn team we should change the

1406
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:30,240
healthy body brain and heart pack to the

1407
00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:32,240
healthy libido pack the brain and heart

1408
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:34,000
are not the only organs that require a

1409
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:36,480
healthy vascular system for proper blood

1410
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:39,520
flow at the right moment go to gcnt.com

1411
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:42,880
or call 877 878 for

1412
00:53:56,790 --> 00:53:45,920
that's 877-878-4203

1413
00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:00,069
welcome back to the paracast the gold

1414
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:03,680
standard of paranormal radio

1415
00:54:11,829 --> 00:54:04,960
and now

1416
00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:13,430
with gene and chris in the power cast

1417
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,319
we're continuing despite weird behavior

1418
00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:18,240
extraterrestrial behavior on the part of

1419
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:21,920
skype where the conversation continued

1420
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:23,680
for you ladies and gentlemen but i was

1421
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:26,640
completely cut off

1422
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:28,960
oh why doesn't that surprise me

1423
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:31,200
it doesn't when we pick up where we left

1424
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:32,800
off chris

1425
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:35,280
well you know this whole idea of

1426
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:38,400
whistleblowers and a lot of anecdotal

1427
00:54:41,349 --> 00:54:39,680
claims

1428
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:41,359
i mean for every claim that's out there

1429
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:42,880
i wish i had a hundred dollars i'd be

1430
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:45,200
really wealthy right now uh

1431
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:48,079
i have not seen anything

1432
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:51,040
that supports any of these claims

1433
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:52,400
bob lazar

1434
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:53,839
onwards

1435
00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:55,440
you know people talk about ben rich

1436
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:57,359
saying oh we have the technology to take

1437
00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:00,160
e.t home where's the recording of that

1438
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:02,160
i mean i believe jan harzon when he says

1439
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:03,680
hey i was there and i actually

1440
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,200
questioned him later

1441
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:07,440
but um you know they

1442
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:08,640
this stuff

1443
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:10,960
i'm really into the mythology in the the

1444
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:13,359
mythologizing of this stuff and how how

1445
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:16,160
memes are created and uh you know when i

1446
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:19,040
when i hear about corey goode and david

1447
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:21,280
wilcock being pt barnum with his corey

1448
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:24,240
good character or going back dan burrish

1449
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:26,880
and pete peterson and you know i could

1450
00:55:30,790 --> 00:55:29,280
go down a whole list of names and you

1451
00:55:33,510 --> 00:55:30,800
know to be honest preston i think it's

1452
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:33,520
all a bunch of bs i really do nobody has

1453
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:36,079
any evidence to back it up

1454
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:38,640
we hear the same meme being propagated

1455
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:41,040
and then little bits are being added on

1456
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:43,599
whether it's len caston in the serpo

1457
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:45,599
book or whether it's uh

1458
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:47,920
you know the latest uh you know project

1459
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:49,040
camelot

1460
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:49,920
bunk

1461
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,599
that comes along about every four or

1462
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:53,920
five months you know you say hundreds of

1463
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,640
people with impeccable credentials have

1464
00:55:59,910 --> 00:55:58,319
come forward with

1465
00:56:01,670 --> 00:55:59,920
evidence to support

1466
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:01,680
the assertion that we have back

1467
00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:05,200
engineered ufos and that aliens are

1468
00:56:08,230 --> 00:56:06,400
are here

1469
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:08,240
why don't we have any anything solid

1470
00:56:13,349 --> 00:56:11,040
that that we could take to uh the new

1471
00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:13,359
york times or something it's frustrating

1472
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:16,079
and uh i hate it um i totally agree with

1473
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:17,520
you it's it's

1474
00:56:21,430 --> 00:56:19,440
kind of ironic here we have an

1475
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:21,440
opportunity it gets by design don't you

1476
00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:22,240
think

1477
00:56:27,829 --> 00:56:25,359
the irony is we have these crashed discs

1478
00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:27,839
and we have it's the best evidence you

1479
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:30,079
could possibly get and what's where's

1480
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:31,760
the evidence for these stories there's

1481
00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:34,319
like you say no physical evidence you

1482
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:36,319
just said we have these scratches

1483
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:38,160
where's the evidence that we have them

1484
00:56:43,829 --> 00:56:41,440
let me start with roswell it's got a lot

1485
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:43,839
of witnesses it's almost impossible to

1486
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:46,400
just debunk that case and it's just one

1487
00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:48,799
wreckage we don't have a disc

1488
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:50,880
well we certainly have a number of

1489
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:53,119
eyewitness testimonies that are pointing

1490
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:54,079
to this

1491
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:55,839
and what i find very interesting is you

1492
00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:57,280
know most people think oh there's

1493
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:58,720
roswell you know there's kecksburg

1494
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:00,720
pennsylvania aztec

1495
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:03,280
new mexico and paradise valley arizona

1496
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:06,160
don't get gene started on aztec

1497
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:08,079
because we've got some real serious

1498
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:10,640
problems with aztec there are these not

1499
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:12,000
just one or two of these things these

1500
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:14,240
are being reported by all over the

1501
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:16,960
united states and across the world

1502
00:57:20,789 --> 00:57:18,799
so it's if there's one or two or three

1503
00:57:22,309 --> 00:57:20,799
of these stories but the fact is this is

1504
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:22,319
coming out of the woodwork

1505
00:57:24,870 --> 00:57:23,680
no we don't have the evidence it's

1506
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:24,880
apparently

1507
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:26,720
being covered up that's what the

1508
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:28,400
testimony is showing us

1509
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:29,599
but to ignore these eyewitness

1510
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:31,520
testimonies i don't think that that's

1511
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:33,839
gonna um you know like someone like

1512
00:57:37,589 --> 00:57:36,079
anthony sanchez who's a fellow

1513
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:37,599
californian

1514
00:57:42,630 --> 00:57:40,000
i think uh from the san francisco area

1515
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:42,640
or sacramento area he comes up with this

1516
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:44,960
claim that he's got a kernel x

1517
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:47,520
who uh has the story of how they found

1518
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:49,839
the alien base at dulce

1519
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:52,079
and how there was functioning technology

1520
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:55,680
left behind and how colonel x can't come

1521
00:57:59,589 --> 00:57:57,520
forward because he's in fear of his life

1522
00:58:02,750 --> 00:57:59,599
or whatever the drama is

1523
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:02,760
and when sanchez is asked to produce the

1524
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:04,640
dd214

1525
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:06,960
military separation document the

1526
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:08,640
document that he produces that was

1527
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:11,200
checked out by investigators in

1528
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:12,480
researchers

1529
00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:15,359
was presented to the san francisco

1530
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:18,000
office where these documents originate

1531
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:19,520
and they said we want to know who this

1532
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:21,520
person is because this is fraudulent it

1533
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:23,440
is not something that we

1534
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:25,440
we came up with and and this is a

1535
00:58:29,910 --> 00:58:27,680
federal crime and yet this guy is going

1536
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:29,920
to be speaking next week to the hickory

1537
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:32,559
apache at dulce i mean this is a kind of

1538
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:35,040
cultural meme propagation that i kind of

1539
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:36,480
referred to you know towards the

1540
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:38,640
beginning of the of this segment here of

1541
00:58:42,470 --> 00:58:39,599
the show

1542
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:42,480
but a lot of rumors and innuendo and

1543
00:58:47,589 --> 00:58:45,119
tall tales don't make reality and as far

1544
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:47,599
as i'm concerned until we have

1545
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:51,119
some sort of doubting thomas

1546
00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:53,760
quality let me stick my fingers in the

1547
00:58:59,270 --> 00:58:56,960
uh in the in the rivet hole and and kick

1548
00:59:01,829 --> 00:58:59,280
some tires here i don't believe any of

1549
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:01,839
it i think it's all a bunch of meme

1550
00:59:07,349 --> 00:59:04,720
propagation and in cultural programming

1551
00:59:09,750 --> 00:59:07,359
i really don't i think the evidence

1552
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:09,760
proving the reality of ufos is in the

1553
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:11,599
public arena and it's absolutely

1554
00:59:14,630 --> 00:59:12,880
conclusive

1555
00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:14,640
it not only comes from i'm not arguing

1556
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:16,160
that i'm not arguing that there's not a

1557
00:59:21,430 --> 00:59:18,640
real phenomenon going on but in terms of

1558
00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:21,440
our government or our military having

1559
00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:24,400
actual physical evidence and proof of

1560
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:26,720
that until we see some sort of

1561
00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:29,599
indication that that is a reality

1562
00:59:34,470 --> 00:59:31,760
we have to assume that it's equivocal at

1563
00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:34,480
this point there is no slam dunk

1564
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:36,960
unequivocal evidence that we have any

1565
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:39,599
sort of technology or hardware from any

1566
00:59:44,309 --> 00:59:42,559
sort of extraterrestrial source i mean

1567
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:44,319
correct me if i'm wrong if you can come

1568
00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:46,960
up with a single piece of evidence

1569
00:59:50,630 --> 00:59:48,480
one just one

1570
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:50,640
right just one little ashtray would be

1571
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:52,000
all i needed

1572
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:53,680
we do have it it's not in the public

1573
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:55,839
arena that's my answer and i'm sticking

1574
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:58,480
to it first of all who is we um it's

1575
01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:01,119
some aspect of the government i don't

1576
01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:03,680
think it's necessarily the senators and

1577
01:00:06,549 --> 01:00:05,520
governors and things like this

1578
01:00:08,470 --> 01:00:06,559
but i think

1579
01:00:09,990 --> 01:00:08,480
the higher echelons of the navy and the

1580
01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:10,000
army certainly

1581
01:00:15,109 --> 01:00:13,040
seem to be in the know with this

1582
01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:15,119
uh i think this whole situation is

1583
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:17,200
extremely volatile

1584
01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:19,280
there is an active cover-up i mean it's

1585
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:22,079
demonstrable

1586
01:00:25,589 --> 01:00:23,760
but uh yeah as i was saying i think the

1587
01:00:27,670 --> 01:00:25,599
air force has really bungled the

1588
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:27,680
situation i mean there's case after case

1589
01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:29,040
after case

1590
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:31,119
where they have

1591
01:00:34,069 --> 01:00:32,480
tried to

1592
01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:34,079
debunk cases

1593
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:36,000
um ridiculed witnesses issued

1594
01:00:40,309 --> 01:00:38,640
contradictory statements john heineck

1595
01:00:41,589 --> 01:00:40,319
himself said that the whole project of

1596
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:41,599
blue book

1597
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:42,720
was

1598
01:00:46,470 --> 01:00:44,319
not even interested in the more

1599
01:00:48,950 --> 01:00:46,480
legitimate cases and would pay more

1600
01:00:51,190 --> 01:00:48,960
attention to prosaic cases

1601
01:00:53,109 --> 01:00:51,200
involving venus or shooting stars

1602
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:53,119
so i mean there is a cover-up there's no

1603
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:54,400
doubt about it

1604
01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:55,920
the evidence is pointing towards the

1605
01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:58,319
fact that we do have these saucers i

1606
01:01:03,349 --> 01:01:00,480
totally agree with you that there's no

1607
01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:03,359
physical evidence supporting this

1608
01:01:08,069 --> 01:01:05,119
but at some point the eyewitness

1609
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:08,079
testimonies stack up to a degree that

1610
01:01:12,230 --> 01:01:10,720
it's mountainous and you have to

1611
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:12,240
say what are we going to do with this

1612
01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:14,559
what does this mean um i think that

1613
01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:16,799
we're doing the best we can to try and

1614
01:01:20,950 --> 01:01:19,200
end this cover-up but apparently this

1615
01:01:22,829 --> 01:01:20,960
subject is extremely sensitive and

1616
01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:22,839
they're putting a lot of effort

1617
01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:24,960
into preventing people from getting

1618
01:01:28,630 --> 01:01:26,400
physical evidence

1619
01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:28,640
well i don't know i just go back to john

1620
01:01:32,630 --> 01:01:30,319
alexander's book

1621
01:01:34,950 --> 01:01:32,640
you know ufos that came out about three

1622
01:01:36,390 --> 01:01:34,960
years ago

1623
01:01:38,309 --> 01:01:36,400
not that i believe

1624
01:01:39,829 --> 01:01:38,319
everything that john alexander has to

1625
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:39,839
say i mean a good friend of his is

1626
01:01:45,030 --> 01:01:43,040
michael aquino so i rest my case but

1627
01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:45,040
you know there is something to be said

1628
01:01:47,589 --> 01:01:45,760
for

1629
01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:47,599
the argument that

1630
01:01:52,470 --> 01:01:50,000
they found out that this particular

1631
01:01:55,589 --> 01:01:52,480
phenomenon was nothing that they could

1632
01:01:57,589 --> 01:01:55,599
really have any anything to uh any

1633
01:02:00,069 --> 01:01:57,599
effect on they they

1634
01:02:01,910 --> 01:02:00,079
it operated totally outside of any sort

1635
01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:01,920
of parameters of control which is what

1636
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:03,920
the government's all about control

1637
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:06,640
and yet it did not really

1638
01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:08,000
pose

1639
01:02:12,150 --> 01:02:10,160
what was determined to be a national

1640
01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:12,160
security concern

1641
01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:14,079
which if you believe

1642
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:15,760
you know people like

1643
01:02:19,750 --> 01:02:18,240
bob salas and robert hastings

1644
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:19,760
shutting down nuclear missile sites so

1645
01:02:23,190 --> 01:02:21,440
that that would be a national um

1646
01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:23,200
security concern but

1647
01:02:26,950 --> 01:02:25,599
the official blue book explanation was

1648
01:02:28,390 --> 01:02:26,960
hey this isn't something that we're

1649
01:02:30,630 --> 01:02:28,400
worried about so

1650
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:30,640
you know out of sight out of mind

1651
01:02:34,789 --> 01:02:33,119
now whether that is true or not i don't

1652
01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:34,799
believe it to be true

1653
01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:36,240
but

1654
01:02:40,390 --> 01:02:38,720
if that is the

1655
01:02:41,589 --> 01:02:40,400
attitude

1656
01:02:43,990 --> 01:02:41,599
then

1657
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:44,000
or the culture i should say

1658
01:02:47,670 --> 01:02:45,680
then you would think someone like a john

1659
01:02:49,510 --> 01:02:47,680
alexander or

1660
01:02:51,349 --> 01:02:49,520
people within

1661
01:02:53,270 --> 01:02:51,359
the military-industrial complex

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especially in aerospace

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would have come forward now with some

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really good smoking gun evidence all we

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have is bob lazar

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some

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by philip corso

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and

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everything that's come out that that may

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have some relevance to it is tainted

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there's nothing really concrete we don't

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have that smoking gun

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totally blow this thing wide open and i

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don't think that's

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for lack of trying

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ah this is a debate i'm just going to be

1788
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the fly in the world i don't want to

1789
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turn this into a debate you already did

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just go proceed i'm tired i'm tired of

1791
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there not being any good

1792
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irrefutable

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unequivocal evidence all we have is a

1794
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bunch of hearsay and anecdotal

1795
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you know people saying well i you know

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was involved in this and i saw that

1797
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:37,120
but they can't back those assertions up

1798
01:08:41,269 --> 01:08:38,880
well there are cases where there's with

1799
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radar evidence finally the washington dc

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radar evidence that came out

1801
01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:44,719
right

1802
01:08:48,149 --> 01:08:46,480
there is a phenomenon i will be the

1803
01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:48,159
first to admit that i have seen them

1804
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with my own eyes i've videotaped them

1805
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:54,560
i've gotten good videotape actually

1806
01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:56,319
but whether

1807
01:09:01,030 --> 01:08:59,040
the government is back engineering

1808
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technology and hardware

1809
01:09:03,749 --> 01:09:02,080
and whether

1810
01:09:05,829 --> 01:09:03,759
you know of course there's the argument

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well if you showed a cell phone to

1812
01:09:11,669 --> 01:09:08,640
someone back in the 1900s they would

1813
01:09:14,070 --> 01:09:11,679
have a hard time with it too and i agree

1814
01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:14,080
that they probably if they do and this

1815
01:09:18,470 --> 01:09:16,000
is a big if if they do have the

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technology they don't know

1817
01:09:22,870 --> 01:09:20,640
their butts from a hole in the ground on

1818
01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:22,880
how to deal with it or how to figure it

1819
01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:25,440
out i i mean that would be my my guess

1820
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and so that makes government embarrassed

1821
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and when governments get embarrassed

1822
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they go into denial

1823
01:09:32,829 --> 01:09:31,359
which ain't

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only a river in

1825
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:35,839
egypt well if this is true you know that

1826
01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:37,920
the government does have this stuff and

1827
01:09:42,229 --> 01:09:40,000
is reverse engineering it it's going to

1828
01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:42,239
come out sooner or later i can't imagine

1829
01:09:45,910 --> 01:09:43,759
that it would be covered up forever and

1830
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:45,920
it seems like we're trending towards

1831
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that and that there are more and more

1832
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people you know who say that they've

1833
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been involved in this sort of thing

1834
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so it should be interesting to see what

1835
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happens i'm not sure that

1836
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the government is going to come clean

1837
01:10:00,229 --> 01:09:58,000
you know

1838
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easily i'd probably be done kicking and

1839
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screaming

1840
01:10:04,470 --> 01:10:03,040
but we'll see what happens i don't think

1841
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the ufos are going to go away we're

1842
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going to have a ufo incident that's

1843
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going to be undeniable like

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like the phoenix lights but you know

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beyond that

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you know we've been dreaming for that

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for so many years and i want to sound

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like i'm old and jaded but i'm old so

1849
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that makes me jaded

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so the thing is here we've been hearing

1851
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this dream of disclosure we've been

1852
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hearing these expectations the

1853
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government knows something and certainly

1854
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if there was a crash at roswell new

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mexico as

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claimed it involved a spaceship

1857
01:10:36,870 --> 01:10:35,760
involved e.t

1858
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there would be

1859
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advanced technology

1860
01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:40,480
but then you know with that old argument

1861
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again what would they do with it until

1862
01:10:46,790 --> 01:10:44,239
they can decode it if we're talking

1863
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about a civilization that's 500 or a

1864
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thousand years ahead of us

1865
01:10:52,229 --> 01:10:50,159
will they just be able to scrape the

1866
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edges of that technology what would they

1867
01:10:57,350 --> 01:10:54,960
learn and where is the evidence of it i

1868
01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:57,360
don't think that philip corso

1869
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represents anything that's particularly

1870
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:02,239
factual there i think there's something

1871
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:03,920
going on with the story because we're

1872
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:05,520
talking about somebody who had a

1873
01:11:09,830 --> 01:11:07,679
distinguished record but he certainly

1874
01:11:11,910 --> 01:11:09,840
wasn't the bag man for secret alien

1875
01:11:14,149 --> 01:11:11,920
technology that he brought to private

1876
01:11:15,830 --> 01:11:14,159
industry that doesn't even make sense

1877
01:11:17,669 --> 01:11:15,840
no i'd find it hard to believe it was

1878
01:11:19,510 --> 01:11:17,679
just one person but what's interesting

1879
01:11:21,350 --> 01:11:19,520
about corso is no one has really been

1880
01:11:23,110 --> 01:11:21,360
able to debunk his story

1881
01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:23,120
whether it's true or not you know we

1882
01:11:25,669 --> 01:11:24,159
don't know

1883
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:25,679
i imagine there's a lot of other guys

1884
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like him are holding on to secrets like

1885
01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:29,120
this

1886
01:11:32,709 --> 01:11:30,560
well

1887
01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:32,719
you know i beg to differ with you on uh

1888
01:11:36,870 --> 01:11:35,280
debunking corso's story quite a number

1889
01:11:38,950 --> 01:11:36,880
of details

1890
01:11:41,110 --> 01:11:38,960
you know who what where and when uh

1891
01:11:42,790 --> 01:11:41,120
didn't add up when people really dug

1892
01:11:45,750 --> 01:11:42,800
into it and checked it out

1893
01:11:47,189 --> 01:11:45,760
for instance the fort riley

1894
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:47,199
conundrum

1895
01:11:51,910 --> 01:11:49,280
there is plenty to

1896
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:51,920
scratch your head about with corso

1897
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:54,880
that's after you factor out bill byrne's

1898
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:57,280
obvious uh involvement

1899
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:58,560
open minds

1900
01:12:03,669 --> 01:12:01,120
actually released and published

1901
01:12:05,750 --> 01:12:03,679
corso's original manuscript

1902
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:05,760
yeah you know there definitely are some

1903
01:12:08,950 --> 01:12:06,960
questions about the story but i'm

1904
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:08,960
talking about his credentials

1905
01:12:12,870 --> 01:12:11,280
this is obviously some guy who's high in

1906
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,880
high levels of goals oh no there's even

1907
01:12:15,990 --> 01:12:14,480
question about that he claimed he was he

1908
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:16,000
was a member of the national security

1909
01:12:21,189 --> 01:12:18,880
council or the the was it not not the

1910
01:12:24,709 --> 01:12:21,199
national security council the

1911
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:24,719
joint chiefs or something no he he was

1912
01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:27,120
caught embellishing his

1913
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:29,280
uh position within the command and

1914
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:31,440
control structure i i just i disagree

1915
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:32,560
with you there

1916
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:34,560
i don't remember the exact details but

1917
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:36,480
he named himself something that he was

1918
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:37,600
not

1919
01:12:42,390 --> 01:12:40,080
yeah well i i think the evidence for ufo

1920
01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:42,400
crashes is not conclusive enough i mean

1921
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:44,000
we don't have the physical

1922
01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:45,840
evidence the craft

1923
01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:48,800
in the public arena and you won't

1924
01:12:51,350 --> 01:12:50,080
not for a while i don't think but i

1925
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:51,360
think it's coming

1926
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:52,960
all right let me

1927
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:54,880
okay so let's look at that

1928
01:12:59,350 --> 01:12:57,040
roswell i guess we can debate different

1929
01:13:01,590 --> 01:12:59,360
conclusions but i'll grant possibly it

1930
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:01,600
was a spaceship do you believe in aztec

1931
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:03,520
or any other cases in terms of a crashed

1932
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:05,760
ufo

1933
01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:07,679
um i think that the

1934
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:10,560
kecksburg pennsylvania case is

1935
01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:11,760
very interesting it's got a lot of

1936
01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:12,800
witnesses

1937
01:13:16,870 --> 01:13:13,600
um

1938
01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:16,880
i think that the aztec case yeah is

1939
01:13:20,550 --> 01:13:19,280
definitely one of the earliest cases we

1940
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:20,560
heard about

1941
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:22,080
and uh

1942
01:13:26,630 --> 01:13:23,600
it has a number of witnesses the

1943
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:26,640
ramsey's book i find you know i read it

1944
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:28,239
it's pretty interesting

1945
01:13:32,630 --> 01:13:29,760
we had

1946
01:13:34,229 --> 01:13:32,640
the ramses on the power cast

1947
01:13:36,870 --> 01:13:34,239
and i've read the first book and there's

1948
01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:36,880
a second edition but i can't get scott

1949
01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:39,440
to tell me what's been changed

1950
01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:41,120
from first or second edition i read the

1951
01:13:44,790 --> 01:13:43,440
first part it sounded the same

1952
01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:44,800
and i'll tell you

1953
01:13:50,310 --> 01:13:46,640
when you look through it

1954
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:50,320
there are very very few direct witnesses

1955
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:52,400
to anything happening

1956
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:55,520
in aztec new mexico the local population

1957
01:13:59,910 --> 01:13:57,280
doesn't know anything about it there's

1958
01:14:01,510 --> 01:13:59,920
an engineer that kevin randle has been

1959
01:14:02,870 --> 01:14:01,520
in touch with and if you check kevin

1960
01:14:04,870 --> 01:14:02,880
randle's blog

1961
01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:04,880
you can find his writings

1962
01:14:09,189 --> 01:14:07,199
and there really isn't anything that

1963
01:14:11,430 --> 01:14:09,199
solid

1964
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:11,440
about aztec at all

1965
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:13,120
and it's troubling that we had two

1966
01:14:17,990 --> 01:14:16,000
people who were considered to be con men

1967
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:18,000
running around the late 40s who fed the

1968
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:20,640
story to a gossip columnist

1969
01:14:25,189 --> 01:14:23,280
frank scully with roswell at least

1970
01:14:26,950 --> 01:14:25,199
something crashed we can debate what it

1971
01:14:29,270 --> 01:14:26,960
was

1972
01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:29,280
and certainly it seems to be possibly

1973
01:14:33,750 --> 01:14:31,280
more than a balloon

1974
01:14:35,669 --> 01:14:33,760
there's no evidence prior to scully

1975
01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:35,679
exactly there was no story prior to

1976
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:37,920
scully at all

1977
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:39,360
and

1978
01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:40,640
i

1979
01:14:55,030 --> 01:14:53,679
and supposedly he spent a lot of money

1980
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:55,040
in fact he gave

1981
01:14:59,669 --> 01:14:58,000
paul kimball a lot of money to make

1982
01:15:01,590 --> 01:14:59,679
a documentary about it to film a

1983
01:15:03,990 --> 01:15:01,600
documentary about it

1984
01:15:05,510 --> 01:15:04,000
but i have to tell you i don't see

1985
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:05,520
the threads there

1986
01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:08,239
that show anything happened at all that

1987
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:10,960
would be unusual and you can disagree

1988
01:15:15,189 --> 01:15:12,960
with me preston but i think

1989
01:15:17,510 --> 01:15:15,199
really if you look at it carefully

1990
01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:17,520
it's smoke and mirrors

1991
01:15:21,270 --> 01:15:19,600
well i disagree i mean i think there are

1992
01:15:21,990 --> 01:15:21,280
a number of researchers who do support

1993
01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:22,000
the

1994
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:23,440
aztec case

1995
01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:24,800
and uh

1996
01:15:28,630 --> 01:15:26,800
other cases like it i mean if you take

1997
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:28,640
out one case there's still so many

1998
01:15:32,950 --> 01:15:30,000
others that's the thing when i started

1999
01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,960
writing this ufos over various states

2000
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:34,080
series

2001
01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:36,560
i really did not expect to find the

2002
01:15:40,390 --> 01:15:38,640
ufo crashes in pretty much every state

2003
01:15:42,550 --> 01:15:40,400
but that's what's happening

2004
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:42,560
well okay so let's bring that up you

2005
01:15:47,350 --> 01:15:45,360
mentioned ufo crashes in a lot of states

2006
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:47,360
other than

2007
01:15:51,910 --> 01:15:50,480
the ones we talk about in new mexico

2008
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:51,920
other than what might have happened in

2009
01:15:57,590 --> 01:15:55,199
kecksburg pennsylvania

2010
01:16:02,070 --> 01:15:57,600
in the united states of america is there

2011
01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:02,080
a significant ufo crash anywhere else

2012
01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:04,400
and can you tell us the story

2013
01:16:08,390 --> 01:16:05,920
before we do that though let me remind

2014
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you to check the powercast plus at

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plus.thepowercast.com

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we have the after the powercast podcast

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the ad free version of this show and

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plus.powercast.com we have preston

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with gene and chris you're in the

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paracast

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part time from the comfort of your home

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giving away free copies this week to get

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figured out a simple way to make money

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flipping houses without even breaking a

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in to the paracast let me tell you what

2128
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you're going to hear stuff here that you

2129
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probably won't hear anywhere else hear

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that george snorri

2131
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oh the hot seat occupied by chris

2132
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you know preston look i i don't want to

2133
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come across like i'm dogging you or i'm

2134
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getting on your case i really admire

2135
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your work and i i'm very impressed with

2136
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you as a researcher and investigator i

2137
01:21:22,310 --> 01:21:19,920
just get

2138
01:21:24,790 --> 01:21:22,320
so frustrated

2139
01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:24,800
that it comes across like badgering or

2140
01:21:27,030 --> 01:21:25,600
you know

2141
01:21:29,430 --> 01:21:27,040
i've been accused of

2142
01:21:31,189 --> 01:21:29,440
many things on on the show but

2143
01:21:33,830 --> 01:21:31,199
and some of that stuff

2144
01:21:35,430 --> 01:21:33,840
violates every known language on earth

2145
01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:35,440
go ahead chris

2146
01:21:39,669 --> 01:21:37,199
don't take any of this personally just

2147
01:21:43,110 --> 01:21:39,679
take it as as frustration and

2148
01:21:45,270 --> 01:21:43,120
as rhetorical questions how about that

2149
01:21:47,189 --> 01:21:45,280
no totally fine i get it i understand

2150
01:21:48,950 --> 01:21:47,199
your frustrations i mean

2151
01:21:51,830 --> 01:21:48,960
no there aren't a lot of great cases i

2152
01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:51,840
think another really good one is the las

2153
01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:53,920
vegas ufo crash

2154
01:21:58,790 --> 01:21:57,040
of uh i believe was 1962

2155
01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:58,800
um which i find a very interesting case

2156
01:22:02,790 --> 01:22:00,960
because this was an object that was seen

2157
01:22:04,310 --> 01:22:02,800
by a lot of different people across the

2158
01:22:07,030 --> 01:22:04,320
united states it came

2159
01:22:08,390 --> 01:22:07,040
i believe was seen by witnesses in new

2160
01:22:09,990 --> 01:22:08,400
york

2161
01:22:12,709 --> 01:22:10,000
straight down was tracked by several

2162
01:22:15,189 --> 01:22:12,719
different air force bases actually ended

2163
01:22:16,310 --> 01:22:15,199
up landing in utah causing a power

2164
01:22:19,510 --> 01:22:16,320
outage

2165
01:22:21,750 --> 01:22:19,520
took off again and exploded north of las

2166
01:22:24,950 --> 01:22:21,760
vegas pretty good case a lot of

2167
01:22:26,870 --> 01:22:24,960
eyewitnesses but nope where's the craft

2168
01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:26,880
i totally agree with you

2169
01:22:32,390 --> 01:22:28,719
north of las vegas so it happened to

2170
01:22:35,510 --> 01:22:33,350
well

2171
01:22:37,750 --> 01:22:35,520
near that area yeah absolutely

2172
01:22:39,510 --> 01:22:37,760
what are the odds area 51

2173
01:22:41,189 --> 01:22:39,520
thing that's a

2174
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:41,199
story in itself i mean

2175
01:22:46,550 --> 01:22:43,760
this goes back to a book from frank

2176
01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:46,560
edwards he was a radio commentator book

2177
01:22:51,189 --> 01:22:48,400
called strange world

2178
01:22:53,110 --> 01:22:51,199
and i knew frank edwards very slightly

2179
01:22:55,669 --> 01:22:53,120
he didn't have a very long life he

2180
01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:55,679
wasn't a super healthy guy but a lot of

2181
01:23:01,910 --> 01:22:59,120
the story emerged from his book

2182
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:01,920
about when went on there okay so people

2183
01:23:05,990 --> 01:23:03,760
saw something but

2184
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:06,000
we don't know who if anyone picked up a

2185
01:23:11,669 --> 01:23:09,040
ufo and took it away do we well i mean

2186
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:11,679
it was investigated by the air force

2187
01:23:16,390 --> 01:23:13,440
project blue book

2188
01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:16,400
jalen heineck was part of that and

2189
01:23:18,790 --> 01:23:17,360
it was

2190
01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:18,800
did cause waves

2191
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:20,320
within the military certainly we know

2192
01:23:24,229 --> 01:23:22,560
that there are articles about it and

2193
01:23:26,870 --> 01:23:24,239
things like this it's not just

2194
01:23:30,149 --> 01:23:26,880
edward's word by any means no kevin

2195
01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:30,159
randle had a chapter on the subject

2196
01:23:33,910 --> 01:23:32,000
that's posted online

2197
01:23:36,310 --> 01:23:33,920
in the end what did the air force

2198
01:23:38,310 --> 01:23:36,320
conclude about it

2199
01:23:39,990 --> 01:23:38,320
um as i recall they

2200
01:23:42,310 --> 01:23:40,000
issued uh

2201
01:23:44,149 --> 01:23:42,320
contradictory explanations though the

2202
01:23:46,390 --> 01:23:44,159
official blue book explanation in the

2203
01:23:49,110 --> 01:23:46,400
end was meteor

2204
01:23:50,950 --> 01:23:49,120
which i find absolutely ridiculous

2205
01:23:53,189 --> 01:23:50,960
because i'm this thing turned it slowed

2206
01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:53,199
down it landed it took off again and

2207
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:55,760
it's clearly not a meteor i mean

2208
01:23:58,709 --> 01:23:57,600
it was a drought here that's why i was

2209
01:24:00,870 --> 01:23:58,719
doing that

2210
01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:00,880
a meteorite mission

2211
01:24:06,470 --> 01:24:02,719
that's

2212
01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:06,480
um it was tracked i believe around 4 500

2213
01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:08,560
miles per hour which is far too slow for

2214
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:10,480
a meteor

2215
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:13,840
and they were chasing the darn thing

2216
01:24:18,149 --> 01:24:16,000
so what ended up what happened with it

2217
01:24:21,669 --> 01:24:18,159
after all this

2218
01:24:23,669 --> 01:24:21,679
um well reportedly uh i believe it was

2219
01:24:24,470 --> 01:24:23,679
randall who said he talked to witnesses

2220
01:24:26,070 --> 01:24:24,480
who

2221
01:24:28,149 --> 01:24:26,080
were there on the scene picked it up in

2222
01:24:30,070 --> 01:24:28,159
their alien bodies and the whole deal

2223
01:24:32,310 --> 01:24:30,080
and they were carted off to nobody knows

2224
01:24:35,189 --> 01:24:32,320
where wright patterson

2225
01:24:37,910 --> 01:24:35,199
area 51 we don't know

2226
01:24:39,910 --> 01:24:37,920
man there's got to be quite a repository

2227
01:24:41,910 --> 01:24:39,920
of bodies somewhere if all these stories

2228
01:24:44,390 --> 01:24:41,920
or even some of them are true well if

2229
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:44,400
that went to area 51 it was right there

2230
01:24:49,110 --> 01:24:46,400
didn't have to go anywhere

2231
01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:49,120
yeah i'm hoping that this stuff is

2232
01:24:53,750 --> 01:24:51,440
busted wide open one day

2233
01:24:56,070 --> 01:24:53,760
i don't know i mean looking at various

2234
01:24:58,709 --> 01:24:56,080
air force bases you can see that they're

2235
01:25:00,390 --> 01:24:58,719
definitely ufo magnets um just going

2236
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:00,400
back to the book clear intent which

2237
01:25:05,270 --> 01:25:03,040
covers you know half dozen or more cases

2238
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:05,280
of these ufos hovering over military

2239
01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:07,920
bases and raising havoc

2240
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:10,719
and uh the edwards air force base story

2241
01:25:15,030 --> 01:25:13,199
stretches back to the 1940s and

2242
01:25:17,030 --> 01:25:15,040
continues today where these objects are

2243
01:25:19,270 --> 01:25:17,040
being seen over the base causing

2244
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:19,280
complete chaos

2245
01:25:23,669 --> 01:25:21,280
hovering for hours at a time even

2246
01:25:28,229 --> 01:25:23,679
landing at one point as gordon cooper

2247
01:25:30,070 --> 01:25:28,239
our astronaut said that he saw a film of

2248
01:25:31,750 --> 01:25:30,080
so uh definitely there's something going

2249
01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:31,760
on there

2250
01:25:35,669 --> 01:25:33,679
well i'll grant that a lot of strange

2251
01:25:38,470 --> 01:25:35,679
things are going on there and we need to

2252
01:25:40,470 --> 01:25:38,480
pursue it but before we go much further

2253
01:25:41,830 --> 01:25:40,480
i'd love to pursue this book of yours

2254
01:25:43,750 --> 01:25:41,840
because we've done half the show we

2255
01:25:45,430 --> 01:25:43,760
haven't even discussed it it's called

2256
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:45,440
not from here

2257
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:48,000
selected ufo articles

2258
01:25:51,590 --> 01:25:49,360
in any case

2259
01:25:53,750 --> 01:25:51,600
and you have some unusual

2260
01:25:56,310 --> 01:25:53,760
chapter titles here

2261
01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:56,320
that i really wanted to discuss here and

2262
01:26:01,270 --> 01:25:59,199
kind of get your basis for them

2263
01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:01,280
and we can go on

2264
01:26:06,070 --> 01:26:03,840
and that is with regard to

2265
01:26:08,149 --> 01:26:06,080
the first article i don't know you know

2266
01:26:10,070 --> 01:26:08,159
how you pick these articles for this

2267
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:10,080
were they written strictly for this book

2268
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:11,360
or just something you had written

2269
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:12,880
elsewhere and you felt they were

2270
01:26:15,990 --> 01:26:14,320
appropriate

2271
01:26:18,550 --> 01:26:16,000
oh yeah these were articles i'd written

2272
01:26:20,229 --> 01:26:18,560
for magazines over the years and uh

2273
01:26:22,149 --> 01:26:20,239
having written a number of books i've

2274
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:22,159
realized that a lot of my research you

2275
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:23,920
know had been published in these

2276
01:26:28,310 --> 01:26:25,840
magazines was available for about a

2277
01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:28,320
month and then gone

2278
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:30,400
so i started going through them picking

2279
01:26:35,189 --> 01:26:32,159
out some of my favorite ones updating

2280
01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:35,199
them and put together this book yeah

2281
01:26:39,189 --> 01:26:37,760
all right let's go to the first one

2282
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:39,199
and this is where

2283
01:26:42,149 --> 01:26:40,560
there's a lot of dispute about

2284
01:26:45,030 --> 01:26:42,159
authenticity

2285
01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:45,040
conversations with extraterrestrials

2286
01:26:49,030 --> 01:26:46,400
and over the years especially since the

2287
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:49,040
1950s we have people who go around

2288
01:26:52,629 --> 01:26:50,880
claiming that they have been in touch

2289
01:26:54,550 --> 01:26:52,639
with e.t

2290
01:26:56,149 --> 01:26:54,560
they've met them in the desert they've

2291
01:26:58,229 --> 01:26:56,159
channeled them

2292
01:27:00,149 --> 01:26:58,239
they've been abducted and had

2293
01:27:01,430 --> 01:27:00,159
conversations telepathically or

2294
01:27:03,110 --> 01:27:01,440
otherwise

2295
01:27:05,669 --> 01:27:03,120
amongst

2296
01:27:08,070 --> 01:27:05,679
these stories any that you find really

2297
01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:08,080
credible worth further study

2298
01:27:10,550 --> 01:27:08,880
well

2299
01:27:12,550 --> 01:27:10,560
all of them i found very interesting

2300
01:27:13,430 --> 01:27:12,560
obviously i wouldn't have included them

2301
01:27:15,669 --> 01:27:13,440
uh

2302
01:27:18,149 --> 01:27:15,679
but what i found interesting isn't

2303
01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:18,159
by far the majority of cases where

2304
01:27:23,270 --> 01:27:20,639
people are having contact with et's

2305
01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:23,280
they don't talk all the witnesses really

2306
01:27:27,430 --> 01:27:25,280
get is you know do not be afraid we

2307
01:27:30,070 --> 01:27:27,440
won't hurt you you know come with us

2308
01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:30,080
and that's often the extent of it

2309
01:27:32,550 --> 01:27:31,360
so this was kind of a collection of

2310
01:27:34,310 --> 01:27:32,560
cases where

2311
01:27:36,550 --> 01:27:34,320
people got a little bit more than that

2312
01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:36,560
and sometimes not much more

2313
01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:38,560
um i mean the good case

2314
01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:41,120
example is travis walton they never

2315
01:27:44,470 --> 01:27:43,440
talked to him at all pretty solid case

2316
01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:44,480
and

2317
01:27:47,830 --> 01:27:46,800
uh but no he was not able to get a word

2318
01:27:49,030 --> 01:27:47,840
out of them

2319
01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:49,040
for the most part they're very

2320
01:27:52,310 --> 01:27:50,480
tight-lipped

2321
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:52,320
so these were cases um where they

2322
01:27:57,510 --> 01:27:55,280
actually gave out some information

2323
01:27:59,590 --> 01:27:57,520
uh one i thought that was

2324
01:28:00,950 --> 01:27:59,600
really interesting was this family i

2325
01:28:04,070 --> 01:28:00,960
interviewed

2326
01:28:06,470 --> 01:28:04,080
uh here in southern california who was

2327
01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:06,480
having visitations by these great type

2328
01:28:09,910 --> 01:28:07,679
ets

2329
01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:09,920
um they were very intent on trying to

2330
01:28:14,950 --> 01:28:12,719
get the daughter to forget she refused

2331
01:28:16,229 --> 01:28:14,960
you know she absolutely insisted on

2332
01:28:17,510 --> 01:28:16,239
remembering and they would argue about

2333
01:28:19,350 --> 01:28:17,520
this

2334
01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:19,360
and they would ask her things about her

2335
01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:21,600
job and about her relationships about

2336
01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:22,800
her work

2337
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:24,400
and she'd answer them and they would

2338
01:28:29,110 --> 01:28:26,880
give her little predictions

2339
01:28:30,149 --> 01:28:29,120
like a raise or something her boyfriend

2340
01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:30,159
would do

2341
01:28:35,669 --> 01:28:31,600
and so she was actually able to talk to

2342
01:28:37,910 --> 01:28:35,679
these guys um as was her mother

2343
01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:37,920
did they speak english or communicate

2344
01:28:43,350 --> 01:28:40,320
telepathically what

2345
01:28:44,550 --> 01:28:43,360
i'm almost always it's telepathically i

2346
01:28:46,629 --> 01:28:44,560
find it very interesting because i'm

2347
01:28:49,110 --> 01:28:46,639
like hey well the french ets they're

2348
01:28:51,110 --> 01:28:49,120
speaking french you know there's cases

2349
01:28:53,350 --> 01:28:51,120
where you know people are speaking

2350
01:28:54,229 --> 01:28:53,360
spanish with these ets they pretty much

2351
01:28:57,189 --> 01:28:54,239
pick up

2352
01:28:59,110 --> 01:28:57,199
or apparently seem to know the language

2353
01:29:01,990 --> 01:28:59,120
or are speaking telepathically and it's

2354
01:29:03,669 --> 01:29:02,000
understood that way um the ed walters

2355
01:29:05,030 --> 01:29:03,679
case was kind of interesting they spoke

2356
01:29:06,310 --> 01:29:05,040
to him in english but they called him

2357
01:29:08,870 --> 01:29:06,320
zihas

2358
01:29:10,709 --> 01:29:08,880
now zehas is the spanish word for

2359
01:29:14,790 --> 01:29:10,719
eyebrows and he's got these really

2360
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:19,510
so there there's

2361
01:29:23,510 --> 01:29:21,830
so yeah they do talk to people but for

2362
01:29:24,629 --> 01:29:23,520
the most part they don't

2363
01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:24,639
in a number of cases they give

2364
01:29:29,189 --> 01:29:26,639
predictions more often than not these

2365
01:29:30,629 --> 01:29:29,199
predictions don't come true

2366
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:30,639
and in a lot of cases the information

2367
01:29:32,610 --> 01:29:31,920
they're giving

2368
01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:32,620
is kind of

2369
01:29:36,629 --> 01:29:33,760
[Music]

2370
01:29:37,430 --> 01:29:36,639
ludicrous or ridiculous

2371
01:29:47,030 --> 01:29:37,440
or

2372
01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:47,040
truman bathroom case

2373
01:29:52,310 --> 01:29:48,800
it just

2374
01:29:53,110 --> 01:29:52,320
infinitely fascinating to me

2375
01:29:54,229 --> 01:29:53,120
yeah

2376
01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:54,239
i think he asked him where do you come

2377
01:30:01,270 --> 01:29:55,600
from

2378
01:30:02,470 --> 01:30:01,280
ludicrous explanation i remember in one

2379
01:30:04,149 --> 01:30:02,480
case these people were actually

2380
01:30:06,870 --> 01:30:04,159
discussing

2381
01:30:08,149 --> 01:30:06,880
with these great ets who actually looked

2382
01:30:08,950 --> 01:30:08,159
really human

2383
01:30:15,750 --> 01:30:08,960
and

2384
01:30:18,550 --> 01:30:15,760
people but we can't help people too much

2385
01:30:19,990 --> 01:30:18,560
you have to solve your own problems

2386
01:30:21,990 --> 01:30:20,000
well at least they're not trying to be

2387
01:30:24,310 --> 01:30:22,000
like michael rennie and they are stood

2388
01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:24,320
still where he says you listen to us or

2389
01:30:28,229 --> 01:30:26,400
we'll blow you up we've got preston

2390
01:30:30,410 --> 01:30:28,239
danette with gene and chris you're in

2391
01:30:40,229 --> 01:30:30,420
the barricade

2392
01:30:47,830 --> 01:30:43,750
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2479
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2480
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2481
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2482
01:34:24,629 --> 01:34:23,760
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2483
01:34:25,750 --> 01:34:24,639
and the choice of a lawyer should not be

2484
01:34:27,110 --> 01:34:25,760
based only on advertisement services may

2485
01:34:29,189 --> 01:34:27,120
not be available in all states attention

2486
01:34:31,110 --> 01:34:29,199
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2487
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:31,120
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2488
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:32,800
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2489
01:34:35,990 --> 01:34:34,800
compensation xaroto is a popular

2490
01:34:37,590 --> 01:34:36,000
prescription blood thinner used to

2491
01:34:39,030 --> 01:34:37,600
prevent blood clots and protect patients

2492
01:34:40,390 --> 01:34:39,040
from strokes these serious bleeding

2493
01:34:42,149 --> 01:34:40,400
events have led to numerous cases of

2494
01:34:44,830 --> 01:34:42,159
hospitalization and even death phone

2495
01:34:54,550 --> 01:34:44,840
lines are open 24 7. call

2496
01:34:59,669 --> 01:34:57,110
hey this is marie d jones the author of

2497
01:35:02,310 --> 01:34:59,679
this book is from the future

2498
01:35:13,750 --> 01:35:02,320
and you are listening to the paracast

2499
01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:17,110
so we've got talkative et's press indent

2500
01:35:19,910 --> 01:35:18,480
when they make predictions the

2501
01:35:22,229 --> 01:35:19,920
predictions

2502
01:35:24,070 --> 01:35:22,239
don't always tend to be accurate but

2503
01:35:25,669 --> 01:35:24,080
isn't that used as evidence that they're

2504
01:35:27,189 --> 01:35:25,679
not really true

2505
01:35:29,110 --> 01:35:27,199
um

2506
01:35:32,629 --> 01:35:29,120
is that what's not true

2507
01:35:34,950 --> 01:35:32,639
that the claims of contacts with et's

2508
01:35:36,310 --> 01:35:34,960
are not true based on

2509
01:35:38,310 --> 01:35:36,320
the fact that

2510
01:35:39,110 --> 01:35:38,320
they don't tell us anything

2511
01:35:40,870 --> 01:35:39,120
that

2512
01:35:43,510 --> 01:35:40,880
indicates advanced technology or

2513
01:35:44,390 --> 01:35:43,520
knowledge and that the predictions they

2514
01:35:46,229 --> 01:35:44,400
make

2515
01:35:47,510 --> 01:35:46,239
tend to be wrong and well that's not

2516
01:35:49,669 --> 01:35:47,520
always the case there are a number of

2517
01:35:52,149 --> 01:35:49,679
cases i mean i myself

2518
01:35:54,550 --> 01:35:52,159
was witness to a ufo that was a

2519
01:35:57,590 --> 01:35:54,560
predicted sighting so i know that this

2520
01:35:59,189 --> 01:35:57,600
can happen well how was it predicted

2521
01:36:02,229 --> 01:35:59,199
well i already told you the story where

2522
01:36:03,990 --> 01:36:02,239
wendy you know asked to contact the et's

2523
01:36:05,030 --> 01:36:04,000
and they said they'd be there and they

2524
01:36:06,870 --> 01:36:05,040
were

2525
01:36:08,950 --> 01:36:06,880
well so cooperative

2526
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:08,960
yeah i was amazed because i've done that

2527
01:36:12,790 --> 01:36:11,040
before and it hasn't worked out

2528
01:36:14,950 --> 01:36:12,800
okay but when you have situations where

2529
01:36:17,189 --> 01:36:14,960
the predictions are wrong and where the

2530
01:36:18,950 --> 01:36:17,199
claims are wrong isn't that the case

2531
01:36:21,030 --> 01:36:18,960
that you should suspect

2532
01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:21,040
uh well you know it depends i think

2533
01:36:25,350 --> 01:36:23,440
you have to take each case individually

2534
01:36:27,110 --> 01:36:25,360
there's a lot of red flags i think

2535
01:36:29,590 --> 01:36:27,120
investigators look for

2536
01:36:31,350 --> 01:36:29,600
that earlier used to not be well known

2537
01:36:33,830 --> 01:36:31,360
now it's a lot harder because this

2538
01:36:35,910 --> 01:36:33,840
phenomenon has really been publicized

2539
01:36:38,390 --> 01:36:35,920
but it's pretty darn easy to tell when

2540
01:36:40,790 --> 01:36:38,400
someone's telling the truth especially

2541
01:36:42,229 --> 01:36:40,800
when you have multiple witnesses and

2542
01:36:44,390 --> 01:36:42,239
unless they're you know oscar-winning

2543
01:36:46,629 --> 01:36:44,400
actors which is certainly possible

2544
01:36:48,229 --> 01:36:46,639
a lot of tricksterism going on

2545
01:36:49,030 --> 01:36:48,239
most people don't want to talk about

2546
01:36:50,790 --> 01:36:49,040
this

2547
01:36:52,709 --> 01:36:50,800
they really don't you have to pull the

2548
01:36:55,189 --> 01:36:52,719
story out of them they

2549
01:36:57,510 --> 01:36:55,199
really don't want to be ridiculed

2550
01:37:00,229 --> 01:36:57,520
a lot of them don't want any publicity i

2551
01:37:02,149 --> 01:37:00,239
have never accepted any funds in

2552
01:37:03,109 --> 01:37:02,159
exchange for a ufo story or anything

2553
01:37:05,750 --> 01:37:03,119
like that

2554
01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:05,760
that's just not how it works people are

2555
01:37:09,430 --> 01:37:08,080
absolutely relieved to find someone to

2556
01:37:11,830 --> 01:37:09,440
talk to

2557
01:37:14,149 --> 01:37:11,840
i often get a caveat they say

2558
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:14,159
i'm not on drugs you know i've never

2559
01:37:20,149 --> 01:37:18,400
told this to anybody i'm well educated

2560
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:20,159
you're the first person i've spoken to

2561
01:37:23,270 --> 01:37:21,600
about this

2562
01:37:26,390 --> 01:37:23,280
so this sort of thing people are really

2563
01:37:28,870 --> 01:37:26,400
nervous they don't want to be ridiculed

2564
01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:28,880
yeah that does kind of add to the um

2565
01:37:34,790 --> 01:37:31,679
believability factor at least you know

2566
01:37:36,310 --> 01:37:34,800
coming from someone that's interviewed

2567
01:37:37,990 --> 01:37:36,320
hundreds and hundreds of people out

2568
01:37:39,990 --> 01:37:38,000
there in the field

2569
01:37:41,350 --> 01:37:40,000
that is something that does carry some

2570
01:37:45,109 --> 01:37:41,360
weight with me

2571
01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:45,119
when people absolutely just say look

2572
01:37:48,790 --> 01:37:47,920
i just have to tell somebody and i trust

2573
01:37:59,109 --> 01:37:48,800
you

2574
01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:59,119
i have to tell somebody

2575
01:38:03,109 --> 01:38:00,960
yeah i think people are looking for

2576
01:38:05,270 --> 01:38:03,119
someone to talk to i think this is this

2577
01:38:06,709 --> 01:38:05,280
phenomenon is a lot more common than

2578
01:38:08,870 --> 01:38:06,719
people realize

2579
01:38:10,550 --> 01:38:08,880
i remember i heard a quote from jalen

2580
01:38:11,830 --> 01:38:10,560
heineck

2581
01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:11,840
allegedly

2582
01:38:15,430 --> 01:38:14,400
that uh he said one in 40 people

2583
01:38:16,870 --> 01:38:15,440
have been

2584
01:38:18,709 --> 01:38:16,880
taken on board or had an onboard

2585
01:38:21,109 --> 01:38:18,719
experience and i thought to myself oh

2586
01:38:22,870 --> 01:38:21,119
you're out of your mind there is no way

2587
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:22,880
that is way too common

2588
01:38:25,910 --> 01:38:24,719
this is pretty much when i first started

2589
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:25,920
my research

2590
01:38:29,510 --> 01:38:27,520
and that's what really got me going i

2591
01:38:31,510 --> 01:38:29,520
decided i'm going to ask everyone i know

2592
01:38:32,470 --> 01:38:31,520
and i didn't have to ask 50 people i

2593
01:38:34,070 --> 01:38:32,480
found

2594
01:38:36,470 --> 01:38:34,080
five or ten people within my circle of

2595
01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:36,480
family and friends and co-workers who

2596
01:38:39,750 --> 01:38:38,159
had had a face-to-face encounter or an

2597
01:38:41,350 --> 01:38:39,760
onboard experience

2598
01:38:42,870 --> 01:38:41,360
so it's much more common i think than

2599
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:42,880
people realize

2600
01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:45,360
well wouldn't that be an indication that

2601
01:38:48,470 --> 01:38:46,800
possibly we're dealing with something

2602
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:48,480
that's

2603
01:38:52,629 --> 01:38:50,639
if not as terrestrial as we are even

2604
01:38:55,030 --> 01:38:52,639
more terrestrial than we are maybe

2605
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:55,040
the phenomenon uh has lived here longer

2606
01:38:59,270 --> 01:38:56,800
than we have and maybe

2607
01:39:00,790 --> 01:38:59,280
the advent of the modern age of

2608
01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:00,800
ufos

2609
01:39:04,709 --> 01:39:02,560
occurred just after we started popping

2610
01:39:07,270 --> 01:39:04,719
off nuclear weapons uh

2611
01:39:08,709 --> 01:39:07,280
maybe we have somehow put them in

2612
01:39:11,189 --> 01:39:08,719
jeopardy because they're sharing the

2613
01:39:13,830 --> 01:39:11,199
same ecosystem that we are in some sort

2614
01:39:16,310 --> 01:39:13,840
of nuclear exchange a nuclear holocaust

2615
01:39:18,550 --> 01:39:16,320
could be as you know catastrophic and

2616
01:39:20,149 --> 01:39:18,560
detrimental to their well-being as ours

2617
01:39:21,350 --> 01:39:20,159
wouldn't that uh be an indication that

2618
01:39:22,149 --> 01:39:21,360
we're dealing with something closer to

2619
01:39:23,830 --> 01:39:22,159
home

2620
01:39:25,750 --> 01:39:23,840
that would make sense and i think

2621
01:39:27,750 --> 01:39:25,760
there's some indication of that

2622
01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:27,760
certainly that's one of the most common

2623
01:39:31,430 --> 01:39:29,520
messages that people get when they're

2624
01:39:34,070 --> 01:39:31,440
taken on board we're talking about

2625
01:39:35,910 --> 01:39:34,080
abductees and contactees alike

2626
01:39:37,750 --> 01:39:35,920
warnings of nuclear proliferation are

2627
01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:37,760
right up there at the top of the list

2628
01:39:41,270 --> 01:39:39,280
well alternative sources of energy

2629
01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:41,280
that's another one healing

2630
01:39:45,030 --> 01:39:43,600
but when ets talk that's what they're

2631
01:39:47,189 --> 01:39:45,040
talking about

2632
01:39:49,430 --> 01:39:47,199
so yeah i think it's entirely possible

2633
01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:49,440
i'm not sure that that's what the

2634
01:39:53,109 --> 01:39:51,280
evidence is really showing us because

2635
01:39:55,189 --> 01:39:53,119
you see these ships landing and then

2636
01:39:57,669 --> 01:39:55,199
they're taken off and they're going up

2637
01:39:59,350 --> 01:39:57,679
into outer space so they're

2638
01:40:01,109 --> 01:39:59,360
i don't know there are cases where

2639
01:40:02,790 --> 01:40:01,119
people have seen them going into the

2640
01:40:04,790 --> 01:40:02,800
ocean certainly

2641
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:04,800
i've done a lot of research on that

2642
01:40:08,390 --> 01:40:06,800
recently yeah i wanted to talk to you

2643
01:40:10,229 --> 01:40:08,400
about the big uh

2644
01:40:11,350 --> 01:40:10,239
supposed entrance it's right off santa

2645
01:40:13,350 --> 01:40:11,360
monica

2646
01:40:15,990 --> 01:40:13,360
kind of in your neck of the woods i seem

2647
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:16,000
to recall reading an article a couple of

2648
01:40:21,750 --> 01:40:19,040
years back where you were commenting on

2649
01:40:23,910 --> 01:40:21,760
some google ocean images that surfaced

2650
01:40:26,229 --> 01:40:23,920
on the net what do you think about that

2651
01:40:27,590 --> 01:40:26,239
that whole idea of a sub oceanic or

2652
01:40:29,270 --> 01:40:27,600
subterranean

2653
01:40:30,629 --> 01:40:29,280
possible uh

2654
01:40:32,070 --> 01:40:30,639
entities or

2655
01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:32,080
intelligences

2656
01:40:36,709 --> 01:40:34,480
yeah i'll i'm neck deep in researching

2657
01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:36,719
that right now it all started pretty

2658
01:40:40,550 --> 01:40:39,040
early on when i was getting ocean going

2659
01:40:42,310 --> 01:40:40,560
ufo accounts

2660
01:40:44,390 --> 01:40:42,320
which i didn't you know really pay much

2661
01:40:47,030 --> 01:40:44,400
attention to uh more than the others

2662
01:40:48,870 --> 01:40:47,040
because ufos are seen everywhere but uh

2663
01:40:51,350 --> 01:40:48,880
i put a chapter in my book ufos over

2664
01:40:52,790 --> 01:40:51,360
california about this

2665
01:40:56,070 --> 01:40:52,800
and that caught the attention of the

2666
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:56,080
history channel i went on deep sea ufos

2667
01:41:00,229 --> 01:40:57,920
one and two and this brought in a flood

2668
01:41:03,030 --> 01:41:00,239
of reports i ended up writing an article

2669
01:41:05,830 --> 01:41:03,040
for fate magazine uh with the title is

2670
01:41:07,750 --> 01:41:05,840
there an undersea ufo base

2671
01:41:09,590 --> 01:41:07,760
off the california coast

2672
01:41:11,910 --> 01:41:09,600
i think that's what i read yeah because

2673
01:41:14,310 --> 01:41:11,920
by then i had 50 reports at least of

2674
01:41:16,149 --> 01:41:14,320
these objects coming in and out

2675
01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:16,159
and some abduction cases where people

2676
01:41:19,189 --> 01:41:18,320
were not being taken inside ufos but

2677
01:41:20,629 --> 01:41:19,199
into

2678
01:41:23,430 --> 01:41:20,639
what appeared to be

2679
01:41:25,510 --> 01:41:23,440
an underground base of some kind that

2680
01:41:26,229 --> 01:41:25,520
was basically the gist of the article

2681
01:41:28,629 --> 01:41:26,239
and

2682
01:41:30,950 --> 01:41:28,639
really caused a lot of attention

2683
01:41:33,350 --> 01:41:30,960
then those google images came out

2684
01:41:35,590 --> 01:41:33,360
and was pretty much precisely where

2685
01:41:37,030 --> 01:41:35,600
the center of all this activity is

2686
01:41:39,109 --> 01:41:37,040
i've been getting a flood of reports

2687
01:41:41,510 --> 01:41:39,119
since then and yeah i think there's

2688
01:41:43,590 --> 01:41:41,520
definitely something going on there

2689
01:41:45,590 --> 01:41:43,600
i'm not sure exactly what there's either

2690
01:41:46,950 --> 01:41:45,600
an undersea base or a parking lot

2691
01:41:48,550 --> 01:41:46,960
involving

2692
01:41:50,550 --> 01:41:48,560
hundreds of ufos

2693
01:41:53,270 --> 01:41:50,560
well they've got catalina too there's

2694
01:41:55,910 --> 01:41:53,280
been reports for decades

2695
01:41:56,709 --> 01:41:55,920
of objects uh going into and coming out

2696
01:42:02,470 --> 01:41:56,719
of

2697
01:42:05,109 --> 01:42:02,480
yeah some really amazing cases uh i just

2698
01:42:06,629 --> 01:42:05,119
found out of a case involving a group of

2699
01:42:09,270 --> 01:42:06,639
boy scouts

2700
01:42:11,350 --> 01:42:09,280
uh this is back in the 50s

2701
01:42:12,950 --> 01:42:11,360
who all saw this object

2702
01:42:14,870 --> 01:42:12,960
and because i found that very

2703
01:42:17,109 --> 01:42:14,880
interesting because i a couple years ago

2704
01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:17,119
i interviewed this other boy scout

2705
01:42:21,109 --> 01:42:19,600
who was there with his friends

2706
01:42:22,629 --> 01:42:21,119
and he

2707
01:42:24,870 --> 01:42:22,639
and they saw

2708
01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:24,880
not one or two objects not 10 or 20 but

2709
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:27,119
literally you know dozens upon dozens of

2710
01:42:31,189 --> 01:42:29,119
these objects

2711
01:42:32,470 --> 01:42:31,199
so there's a lot of activity there for

2712
01:42:34,950 --> 01:42:32,480
sure

2713
01:42:36,870 --> 01:42:34,960
i wanted to bring up this next chapter

2714
01:42:39,270 --> 01:42:36,880
you have in your book because it kind of

2715
01:42:41,669 --> 01:42:39,280
relates conversations with e.t

2716
01:42:44,870 --> 01:42:41,679
conversations with extraterrestrials and

2717
01:42:47,030 --> 01:42:44,880
that's phone call from an alien

2718
01:42:49,270 --> 01:42:47,040
so i hear my phone ring my iphone ring

2719
01:42:51,189 --> 01:42:49,280
which of course plays hello goodbye by

2720
01:42:52,790 --> 01:42:51,199
the beatles is the ringtone i pick it up

2721
01:42:54,470 --> 01:42:52,800
and say hello

2722
01:42:57,990 --> 01:42:54,480
may i help you or something like that

2723
01:43:00,149 --> 01:42:58,000
and someone says that says e.t

2724
01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:00,159
what's really going on seriously

2725
01:43:05,109 --> 01:43:03,360
yeah this is a bizarre phenomenon and a

2726
01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:05,119
really surprised to me

2727
01:43:08,830 --> 01:43:07,520
as i'm sure you know ufos do have sort

2728
01:43:12,149 --> 01:43:08,840
of a tendency to

2729
01:43:15,270 --> 01:43:12,159
effect electromagnetic equipment of all

2730
01:43:17,750 --> 01:43:15,280
kinds i mean not only stopping cars

2731
01:43:19,990 --> 01:43:17,760
on the highway but fuzzing up radios or

2732
01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:20,000
televisions and things like this

2733
01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:22,719
and apparently there's this whole

2734
01:43:25,830 --> 01:43:24,800
group of cases the sort of genre of

2735
01:43:28,149 --> 01:43:25,840
cases

2736
01:43:30,390 --> 01:43:28,159
uh where people are claiming to be

2737
01:43:32,149 --> 01:43:30,400
contacted through the phone

2738
01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:32,159
now i know how this sounds but we are

2739
01:43:36,550 --> 01:43:34,000
getting cases from you know major

2740
01:43:39,590 --> 01:43:36,560
researchers like john keel

2741
01:43:41,830 --> 01:43:39,600
ray fowler uh and others whitley

2742
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:41,840
strieber talks about an incident that he

2743
01:43:47,350 --> 01:43:45,280
had where voices came through his stereo

2744
01:43:48,629 --> 01:43:47,360
and he held an actual conversation with

2745
01:43:50,470 --> 01:43:48,639
these guys

2746
01:43:53,510 --> 01:43:50,480
uh betty andreasen

2747
01:43:56,229 --> 01:43:53,520
she said she received a series of calls

2748
01:43:57,669 --> 01:43:56,239
from these et's who would give her

2749
01:44:00,229 --> 01:43:57,679
messages

2750
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:00,239
uh well and then there's the famous uh

2751
01:44:06,229 --> 01:44:04,000
phone calls to philip k dick and uh

2752
01:44:08,550 --> 01:44:06,239
jack sarfati back in the early 50s when

2753
01:44:10,870 --> 01:44:08,560
they were kids metallic voice would call

2754
01:44:12,870 --> 01:44:10,880
and communicate with them

2755
01:44:14,870 --> 01:44:12,880
and i think there was another uh

2756
01:44:17,030 --> 01:44:14,880
several people too that

2757
01:44:19,030 --> 01:44:17,040
were within that same sort of time frame

2758
01:44:20,790 --> 01:44:19,040
of people that went on to have notable

2759
01:44:22,629 --> 01:44:20,800
careers

2760
01:44:24,709 --> 01:44:22,639
yeah i find it fascinating because every

2761
01:44:26,390 --> 01:44:24,719
now and then i run into this with the

2762
01:44:27,830 --> 01:44:26,400
people i'm interviewing

2763
01:44:29,270 --> 01:44:27,840
see it's very interesting because people

2764
01:44:31,430 --> 01:44:29,280
will say oh these calls always come on

2765
01:44:32,950 --> 01:44:31,440
the same day and that's what happened to

2766
01:44:35,189 --> 01:44:32,960
this other guy i was interviewing from

2767
01:44:37,109 --> 01:44:35,199
upstate new york to get these weird

2768
01:44:39,189 --> 01:44:37,119
phone calls where here are these clicks

2769
01:44:40,950 --> 01:44:39,199
and buzzes and things like this it was

2770
01:44:42,870 --> 01:44:40,960
always on the same day

2771
01:44:44,709 --> 01:44:42,880
and then one day he

2772
01:44:46,629 --> 01:44:44,719
actually contacted him through his cell

2773
01:44:48,149 --> 01:44:46,639
phone he would hear

2774
01:44:49,270 --> 01:44:48,159
messages in his head saying we're coming

2775
01:44:51,430 --> 01:44:49,280
we're coming

2776
01:44:53,830 --> 01:44:51,440
um the time is soon

2777
01:44:54,790 --> 01:44:53,840
and uh very kind of telepathic type of

2778
01:44:57,109 --> 01:44:54,800
thing

2779
01:44:58,709 --> 01:44:57,119
and then this is happening

2780
01:45:00,550 --> 01:44:58,719
while he's driving on the road and he's

2781
01:45:02,870 --> 01:45:00,560
seeing one of these ufos

2782
01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:02,880
following him and his cell phone starts

2783
01:45:06,550 --> 01:45:05,440
ringing and he looks at it it says no

2784
01:45:07,669 --> 01:45:06,560
answer

2785
01:45:10,470 --> 01:45:07,679
and uh

2786
01:45:12,870 --> 01:45:10,480
he ignores it but finally he picks it up

2787
01:45:14,709 --> 01:45:12,880
and uh he answers it

2788
01:45:16,149 --> 01:45:14,719
you know what let's break right here and

2789
01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:16,159
let our listeners figure out what's

2790
01:45:18,709 --> 01:45:17,760
going to come next

2791
01:45:21,109 --> 01:45:18,719
what

2792
01:45:28,629 --> 01:45:21,119
did he hear preston dennett with gina

2793
01:45:28,639 --> 01:45:33,350
thank you for listening to gcn

2794
01:45:37,669 --> 01:45:34,270
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2795
01:45:41,510 --> 01:45:39,510
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2796
01:45:42,790 --> 01:45:41,520
was a critically acclaimed success and

2797
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now there is the coming of the

2798
01:45:46,950 --> 01:45:44,719
protectors a former military

2799
01:45:49,109 --> 01:45:46,960
intelligence man is contacted by a space

2800
01:45:51,669 --> 01:45:49,119
woman in a dream a dream that turns out

2801
01:45:53,350 --> 01:45:51,679
to be a nightmare because evil forces on

2802
01:45:55,510 --> 01:45:53,360
her distant planet are planning to

2803
01:45:58,070 --> 01:45:55,520
conquer the earth this is gripping

2804
01:45:59,910 --> 01:45:58,080
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2805
01:46:01,950 --> 01:45:59,920
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2806
01:46:04,830 --> 01:46:01,960
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2807
01:46:07,350 --> 01:46:04,840
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2808
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2809
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2810
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2811
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2812
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2813
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2814
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2815
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2816
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2817
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2818
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2819
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2820
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2821
01:46:47,510 --> 01:46:45,119
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2822
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the irs for over 30 years i've helped

2823
01:46:51,030 --> 01:46:49,600
thousands and i can help you too i wrote

2824
01:46:52,709 --> 01:46:51,040
the book on irs settlement and i'm

2825
01:46:56,390 --> 01:46:52,719
telling you there's no such thing as a

2826
01:46:58,629 --> 01:46:56,400
hopeless case call 834 no tax to finally

2827
01:47:00,149 --> 01:46:58,639
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2828
01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:00,159
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2829
01:47:06,790 --> 01:47:03,040
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2830
01:47:08,950 --> 01:47:06,800
tax that's 800 34 no tax or my website

2831
01:47:10,790 --> 01:47:08,960
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2832
01:47:12,470 --> 01:47:10,800
my dad was 59 when he collapsed from a

2833
01:47:14,390 --> 01:47:12,480
heart attack late last year just this

2834
01:47:16,470 --> 01:47:14,400
past august was when he spread his ashes

2835
01:47:18,229 --> 01:47:16,480
on the saint croix river i loved my dad

2836
01:47:20,790 --> 01:47:18,239
but boy was he stubborn he hadn't been

2837
01:47:22,950 --> 01:47:20,800
to the doctor in over 25 years his

2838
01:47:24,790 --> 01:47:22,960
excuse he simply couldn't afford it he

2839
01:47:27,830 --> 01:47:24,800
wasn't a rich man by any means at less

2840
01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:27,840
than 107 per month libertyoncall.org

2841
01:47:31,709 --> 01:47:29,440
would have been the perfect alternative

2842
01:47:34,310 --> 01:47:31,719
for my father don't wait go to

2843
01:47:35,990 --> 01:47:34,320
libertyoncall.org right now for not just

2844
01:47:40,580 --> 01:47:36,000
your sake for the sake of your loved

2845
01:47:40,590 --> 01:47:46,470
[Music]

2846
01:47:53,430 --> 01:47:49,750
welcome back to the paracast the gold

2847
01:47:54,629 --> 01:47:53,440
standard of paranormal radio

2848
01:48:01,830 --> 01:47:54,639
and now

2849
01:48:05,669 --> 01:48:04,229
at least we just answer this at the end

2850
01:48:08,790 --> 01:48:05,679
of the next segment you have all these

2851
01:48:10,310 --> 01:48:08,800
tv shows ending their seasons about now

2852
01:48:11,830 --> 01:48:10,320
and some have cliffhangers and you have

2853
01:48:14,149 --> 01:48:11,840
to wait three or four months to get the

2854
01:48:15,910 --> 01:48:14,159
answer to whether a lead character died

2855
01:48:17,750 --> 01:48:15,920
or something like that then the series

2856
01:48:20,870 --> 01:48:17,760
is cancelled so you don't know

2857
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:20,880
press indent hasn't been cancelled

2858
01:48:23,669 --> 01:48:22,400
but we've got to find out what was at

2859
01:48:26,550 --> 01:48:23,679
the other end of that telephone

2860
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:27,910
yeah it's really interesting he was

2861
01:48:31,750 --> 01:48:29,920
right in the middle of this ufo sighting

2862
01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:31,760
and this his phone rings and it says no

2863
01:48:34,709 --> 01:48:33,119
number

2864
01:48:36,550 --> 01:48:34,719
so

2865
01:48:38,229 --> 01:48:36,560
he answers the phone and he hears this

2866
01:48:40,629 --> 01:48:38,239
funny clicking noise and says it wasn't

2867
01:48:41,669 --> 01:48:40,639
really like a mechanical click sort of

2868
01:48:43,270 --> 01:48:41,679
like

2869
01:48:44,550 --> 01:48:43,280
a clicking noise someone would make with

2870
01:48:46,470 --> 01:48:44,560
their tongue on the roof of their mouth

2871
01:48:48,390 --> 01:48:46,480
or something like that and he said it

2872
01:48:50,870 --> 01:48:48,400
was very rapid

2873
01:48:55,910 --> 01:48:52,870
and he hears this voice says

2874
01:48:57,350 --> 01:48:55,920
the time has grown closer and uh so he

2875
01:49:00,709 --> 01:48:57,360
hung up the phone and threw it on the

2876
01:49:02,149 --> 01:49:00,719
seat and shortly later had missing time

2877
01:49:03,430 --> 01:49:02,159
yeah a number of cases like that it's

2878
01:49:05,590 --> 01:49:03,440
bizarre

2879
01:49:06,390 --> 01:49:05,600
sounds to me you've got a killian kind

2880
01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:06,400
of

2881
01:49:09,510 --> 01:49:08,320
temperament in finding all these weird

2882
01:49:11,189 --> 01:49:09,520
cases

2883
01:49:13,030 --> 01:49:11,199
that was part of the point of this book

2884
01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:13,040
was to explore the

2885
01:49:16,790 --> 01:49:14,480
more unexplored

2886
01:49:18,310 --> 01:49:16,800
aspects of the ufo phenomena the ones

2887
01:49:20,629 --> 01:49:18,320
that have been chanted aside a little

2888
01:49:23,430 --> 01:49:20,639
bit or ignored

2889
01:49:25,669 --> 01:49:23,440
um just the sort of weirdest

2890
01:49:28,070 --> 01:49:25,679
things that are going on because

2891
01:49:29,590 --> 01:49:28,080
i don't know i think it's pretty

2892
01:49:30,950 --> 01:49:29,600
interesting that ets are contacting

2893
01:49:32,629 --> 01:49:30,960
people this way

2894
01:49:34,149 --> 01:49:32,639
contact takes place in a lot of

2895
01:49:35,669 --> 01:49:34,159
different ways

2896
01:49:37,830 --> 01:49:35,679
in connection with that you have

2897
01:49:40,149 --> 01:49:37,840
something here a

2898
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:40,159
chapter called the alien clown

2899
01:49:43,510 --> 01:49:41,679
connection

2900
01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:43,520
now some people of course as you know

2901
01:49:48,070 --> 01:49:45,760
are afraid of clowns there's something

2902
01:49:51,270 --> 01:49:48,080
that can be quite sinister about them so

2903
01:49:52,709 --> 01:49:51,280
what is the alien clown connection

2904
01:49:54,470 --> 01:49:52,719
yeah this was something that really

2905
01:49:57,910 --> 01:49:54,480
surprised me and i kept running into

2906
01:49:59,669 --> 01:49:57,920
this with abductees who had this dread

2907
01:50:01,590 --> 01:49:59,679
fear of clowns

2908
01:50:03,590 --> 01:50:01,600
and you know first i didn't really

2909
01:50:05,430 --> 01:50:03,600
connect it to the phenomena it wasn't

2910
01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:05,440
until bud hopkins

2911
01:50:09,750 --> 01:50:07,440
wrote about it and said that

2912
01:50:10,870 --> 01:50:09,760
he had a number of cases

2913
01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:10,880
where

2914
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:13,840
people had this dread fear of clowns and

2915
01:50:18,550 --> 01:50:16,480
it's called chlorophobia fear of clowns

2916
01:50:20,149 --> 01:50:18,560
and the first case that i had which

2917
01:50:22,149 --> 01:50:20,159
really connected it was with this lady

2918
01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:22,159
called marcelina

2919
01:50:26,070 --> 01:50:24,400
and she said yeah you know i have fear

2920
01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:26,080
of clowns ever since i had this one

2921
01:50:30,310 --> 01:50:27,520
childhood incident

2922
01:50:32,390 --> 01:50:30,320
where this e.t came and i swear it was

2923
01:50:33,830 --> 01:50:32,400
dressed up as a clown and i'm like

2924
01:50:35,189 --> 01:50:33,840
really

2925
01:50:36,550 --> 01:50:35,199
hon you know and she says i'm not sure

2926
01:50:39,189 --> 01:50:36,560
you know maybe it was

2927
01:50:41,510 --> 01:50:39,199
maybe i'm making this up i don't know

2928
01:50:42,950 --> 01:50:41,520
but uh that was her impression and it

2929
01:50:44,790 --> 01:50:42,960
wasn't much longer after that i was

2930
01:50:47,830 --> 01:50:44,800
interviewing another lady who had a

2931
01:50:50,629 --> 01:50:47,840
profound ufo sighting very close up

2932
01:50:52,229 --> 01:50:50,639
and uh probably more than just deciding

2933
01:50:53,590 --> 01:50:52,239
on there are some kind of red flags that

2934
01:50:55,030 --> 01:50:53,600
i look for

2935
01:50:57,109 --> 01:50:55,040
and at any rate she says you know i had

2936
01:50:59,189 --> 01:50:57,119
some weird childhood experiences as well

2937
01:51:01,109 --> 01:50:59,199
that's another red flag she said where

2938
01:51:03,189 --> 01:51:01,119
people come into her bedroom and she'd

2939
01:51:04,629 --> 01:51:03,199
short figures and she'd hear them and

2940
01:51:06,629 --> 01:51:04,639
get really scared

2941
01:51:08,390 --> 01:51:06,639
she said she has one memory of these

2942
01:51:10,310 --> 01:51:08,400
figures coming in and

2943
01:51:13,510 --> 01:51:10,320
instead of seeing an e.t she saw this

2944
01:51:16,390 --> 01:51:13,520
harlequin this clown with a full-on

2945
01:51:17,910 --> 01:51:16,400
purple velvet little jingle jangly bells

2946
01:51:19,189 --> 01:51:17,920
the whole deal

2947
01:51:21,590 --> 01:51:19,199
and the next thing she knows she's

2948
01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:21,600
finding herself you know on a table

2949
01:51:25,830 --> 01:51:24,080
being operated on being cut by this

2950
01:51:27,830 --> 01:51:25,840
surgical instrument

2951
01:51:29,189 --> 01:51:27,840
and that's kind of where the memory ends

2952
01:51:30,550 --> 01:51:29,199
she says i don't know what to make of

2953
01:51:32,830 --> 01:51:30,560
this

2954
01:51:36,629 --> 01:51:32,840
but i kept running into these kinds of

2955
01:51:37,510 --> 01:51:36,639
cases really bizarre you know the clown

2956
01:51:39,669 --> 01:51:37,520
is

2957
01:51:43,350 --> 01:51:39,679
one of the holdover sort of last

2958
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:43,360
vestiges of the trickster from more

2959
01:51:47,270 --> 01:51:45,440
ancient and medieval times

2960
01:51:50,470 --> 01:51:47,280
one of the last real vestiges of the

2961
01:51:53,350 --> 01:51:50,480
trickster in the modern age is the clown

2962
01:51:55,589 --> 01:51:53,360
yeah i find that interesting as well

2963
01:51:58,070 --> 01:51:55,599
if the ets are using this as a screen

2964
01:51:59,830 --> 01:51:58,080
memory or sort of a disguise this is

2965
01:52:02,629 --> 01:51:59,840
kind of my theory

2966
01:52:04,070 --> 01:52:02,639
to sort of reduce the fear factor

2967
01:52:05,990 --> 01:52:04,080
well it's not working because what's

2968
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:06,000
ending up is there's this whole dread

2969
01:52:10,629 --> 01:52:08,320
fear of clowns and kind of permeated

2970
01:52:12,790 --> 01:52:10,639
into society to a certain extent with

2971
01:52:13,990 --> 01:52:12,800
you know killer clowns from outer space

2972
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:14,000
and

2973
01:52:19,189 --> 01:52:17,360
serial killers wayne gacy right

2974
01:52:21,430 --> 01:52:19,199
so i don't know which came first i mean

2975
01:52:24,470 --> 01:52:21,440
i after i wrote this article a clown

2976
01:52:26,070 --> 01:52:24,480
actually wrote ufo universe where the

2977
01:52:28,790 --> 01:52:26,080
article was published and wanted to sue

2978
01:52:30,310 --> 01:52:28,800
me for defaming clowns

2979
01:52:33,430 --> 01:52:30,320
which you know didn't end up happening

2980
01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:37,109
how dare you

2981
01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:38,870
a lot of cases like this and honestly

2982
01:52:41,990 --> 01:52:40,320
it's not just clowns there are people

2983
01:52:44,709 --> 01:52:42,000
who are seeing these et's dressed up in

2984
01:52:45,750 --> 01:52:44,719
all kinds of bizarre costumes wearing

2985
01:52:48,149 --> 01:52:45,760
wigs

2986
01:52:50,229 --> 01:52:48,159
sometimes dressed up in pinstripe suits

2987
01:52:51,270 --> 01:52:50,239
whitley streeber said he had that happen

2988
01:52:55,669 --> 01:52:51,280
to him

2989
01:52:58,470 --> 01:52:55,679
wearing cowboy hats um that's another

2990
01:53:00,470 --> 01:52:58,480
so yeah pretty interesting i'm

2991
01:53:02,310 --> 01:53:00,480
not sure why exactly they're doing it

2992
01:53:04,070 --> 01:53:02,320
and i'm not sure if this is necessarily

2993
01:53:05,669 --> 01:53:04,080
related to the whole screen memory

2994
01:53:08,070 --> 01:53:05,679
phenomena where people see

2995
01:53:09,109 --> 01:53:08,080
owls or deer or you know wolves or what

2996
01:53:11,270 --> 01:53:09,119
have you

2997
01:53:12,220 --> 01:53:11,280
they seem to be actually dressed up in

2998
01:53:13,350 --> 01:53:12,230
these clothes

2999
01:53:14,070 --> 01:53:13,360
[Music]

3000
01:53:15,510 --> 01:53:14,080
so

3001
01:53:16,310 --> 01:53:15,520
i've only had

3002
01:53:18,310 --> 01:53:16,320
two

3003
01:53:20,470 --> 01:53:18,320
what i consider to be

3004
01:53:21,990 --> 01:53:20,480
compelling abduction claims out of the

3005
01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:22,000
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds

3006
01:53:27,270 --> 01:53:24,400
probably thousands of reports that i've

3007
01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:27,280
investigated over the years and

3008
01:53:31,270 --> 01:53:29,280
this woman was in love with her e.t

3009
01:53:33,750 --> 01:53:31,280
abductor and

3010
01:53:35,830 --> 01:53:33,760
she was looking forward to the

3011
01:53:38,470 --> 01:53:35,840
occurrences when

3012
01:53:39,669 --> 01:53:38,480
this entity would dress in a gold lemay

3013
01:53:41,510 --> 01:53:39,679
cape

3014
01:53:44,709 --> 01:53:41,520
and she loved it because it reminded her

3015
01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:46,070
ew

3016
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:47,840
okay

3017
01:53:51,430 --> 01:53:49,920
i'm not making this up i mean

3018
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:51,440
i'm pretty creative but not that

3019
01:53:55,669 --> 01:53:53,520
creative

3020
01:53:56,470 --> 01:53:55,679
i just report the news

3021
01:53:57,990 --> 01:53:56,480
yeah

3022
01:54:01,589 --> 01:53:58,000
one of these days i'm going to do a

3023
01:54:03,189 --> 01:54:01,599
study on this what exactly aliens wear

3024
01:54:04,709 --> 01:54:03,199
because for the most part i mean they

3025
01:54:07,669 --> 01:54:04,719
wear jumpsuits but we've got a lot of

3026
01:54:08,870 --> 01:54:07,679
reports of princely aluminum type suits

3027
01:54:11,830 --> 01:54:08,880
a lot of reports where they're walking

3028
01:54:12,790 --> 01:54:11,840
around in their birthday suit

3029
01:54:15,589 --> 01:54:12,800
so

3030
01:54:16,790 --> 01:54:15,599
i don't know pretty interesting

3031
01:54:19,589 --> 01:54:16,800
i don't know as long as they just kind

3032
01:54:20,870 --> 01:54:19,599
of stay away from me i think

3033
01:54:24,149 --> 01:54:20,880
i'll be

3034
01:54:25,910 --> 01:54:24,159
more the happier let's put it that way

3035
01:54:27,430 --> 01:54:25,920
and now watch what will happen i'll wake

3036
01:54:30,950 --> 01:54:27,440
up and i'll have

3037
01:54:32,790 --> 01:54:30,960
you know bozo the clown with almond eyes

3038
01:54:36,470 --> 01:54:32,800
or something tonight oh god i just

3039
01:54:39,430 --> 01:54:38,070
please don't dress up as a clown for me

3040
01:54:40,709 --> 01:54:39,440
i mean i don't have a fear of clowns but

3041
01:54:42,709 --> 01:54:40,719
yeah

3042
01:54:44,229 --> 01:54:42,719
let's just show yourselves as you really

3043
01:54:46,070 --> 01:54:44,239
are

3044
01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:46,080
yeah

3045
01:54:49,669 --> 01:54:47,679
well like the uh

3046
01:54:52,070 --> 01:54:49,679
what was it the uh the villa bolas case

3047
01:54:53,589 --> 01:54:52,080
where she was in her birthday suit but

3048
01:54:55,350 --> 01:54:53,599
turned him off when she was trying to

3049
01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:55,360
get it on with him because she grunted

3050
01:54:59,189 --> 01:54:57,360
like an animal

3051
01:55:00,709 --> 01:54:59,199
right

3052
01:55:03,270 --> 01:55:00,719
you're not talking about one of my old

3053
01:55:05,030 --> 01:55:03,280
girlfriends are you

3054
01:55:06,950 --> 01:55:05,040
well actually i was gene but i didn't

3055
01:55:12,790 --> 01:55:06,960
want to you know yeah i didn't want to

3056
01:55:17,750 --> 01:55:15,350
i never told him that story i mean

3057
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:17,760
i dated a lot of strange women back in

3058
01:55:21,750 --> 01:55:20,480
the old days but it never got that

3059
01:55:24,629 --> 01:55:21,760
strange

3060
01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:24,639
weren't impregnating any et's then huh

3061
01:55:28,709 --> 01:55:26,320
well i don't know there might be some

3062
01:55:31,030 --> 01:55:28,719
e.t versions of me running around

3063
01:55:34,070 --> 01:55:31,040
i have to think about that are there any

3064
01:55:36,470 --> 01:55:34,080
others of me i just know of one

3065
01:55:38,149 --> 01:55:36,480
that's the most frightening frightening

3066
01:55:40,550 --> 01:55:38,159
concept

3067
01:55:41,669 --> 01:55:40,560
speak for yourself my friend

3068
01:55:43,189 --> 01:55:41,679
think about it i mean that's what

3069
01:55:44,390 --> 01:55:43,199
they're all into right they're always

3070
01:55:47,750 --> 01:55:44,400
collecting

3071
01:55:49,109 --> 01:55:47,760
uh eggs and reproductive material

3072
01:55:51,750 --> 01:55:49,119
we're not going to go extinct we know

3073
01:55:54,229 --> 01:55:51,760
that because they've got to have enough

3074
01:55:56,070 --> 01:55:54,239
material to create the recreate the

3075
01:55:57,350 --> 01:55:56,080
human race

3076
01:55:59,830 --> 01:55:57,360
you would think

3077
01:56:01,270 --> 01:55:59,840
yeah yeah that's a good question uh

3078
01:56:03,589 --> 01:56:01,280
here's a good question

3079
01:56:05,430 --> 01:56:03,599
why do they still land and walk around

3080
01:56:08,550 --> 01:56:05,440
picking up flowers and rocks like

3081
01:56:10,950 --> 01:56:08,560
they've never seen them before

3082
01:56:13,350 --> 01:56:10,960
because they want

3083
01:56:15,669 --> 01:56:13,360
yeah why why are they coming for light

3084
01:56:17,510 --> 01:56:15,679
years to pick a flower that's a really

3085
01:56:19,350 --> 01:56:17,520
good question but uh they seem to be

3086
01:56:21,350 --> 01:56:19,360
very interested in our planet

3087
01:56:24,550 --> 01:56:21,360
and uh i think this is something that we

3088
01:56:27,750 --> 01:56:24,560
see a lot of uh maybe they're tourists

3089
01:56:29,830 --> 01:56:27,760
i think there's certainly

3090
01:56:31,510 --> 01:56:29,840
possibility of that

3091
01:56:33,350 --> 01:56:31,520
but yeah i don't know it's hard to say

3092
01:56:35,910 --> 01:56:33,360
why are they still examining people

3093
01:56:37,750 --> 01:56:35,920
haven't they learned enough about us by

3094
01:56:39,270 --> 01:56:37,760
now

3095
01:56:40,709 --> 01:56:39,280
apparently they're very interested in us

3096
01:56:42,870 --> 01:56:40,719
in our planet

3097
01:56:45,350 --> 01:56:42,880
we've got some questions here uh in our

3098
01:56:47,830 --> 01:56:45,360
question bank where our listeners are

3099
01:56:51,109 --> 01:56:47,840
able to post uh questions for our guests

3100
01:56:55,350 --> 01:56:52,790
and um

3101
01:56:57,189 --> 01:56:55,360
here's a couple from technomage

3102
01:56:59,669 --> 01:56:57,199
as a field investigator president have

3103
01:57:01,510 --> 01:56:59,679
you found that ce3 or close encounter of

3104
01:57:03,430 --> 01:57:01,520
the third kind sightings are

3105
01:57:05,910 --> 01:57:03,440
non-existent or do you still encounter

3106
01:57:07,589 --> 01:57:05,920
credible entity sighting cases today

3107
01:57:08,790 --> 01:57:07,599
before he answers that question let's do

3108
01:57:10,790 --> 01:57:08,800
our break

3109
01:57:12,310 --> 01:57:10,800
we've got preston dennett

3110
01:57:14,709 --> 01:57:12,320
answering your questions from question

3111
01:57:18,229 --> 01:57:14,719
bank he's also written a book of essays

3112
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or selected ufo articles called not from

3113
01:57:21,189 --> 01:57:19,520
here

3114
01:57:22,390 --> 01:57:21,199
and people say that about me and maybe

3115
01:57:24,229 --> 01:57:22,400
they're right

3116
01:57:25,750 --> 01:57:24,239
so we'll have more with preston dennett

3117
01:57:27,350 --> 01:57:25,760
in our next segment

3118
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3119
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3220
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3221
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3223
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so preston dennett you're in the hot

3224
02:02:07,430 --> 02:02:04,880
seat again to answer that question from

3225
02:02:09,990 --> 02:02:07,440
one of our listeners go ahead please

3226
02:02:11,830 --> 02:02:10,000
yeah absolutely there are definitely

3227
02:02:14,470 --> 02:02:11,840
current active cases i get them pretty

3228
02:02:16,470 --> 02:02:14,480
regularly i just spoke with the lady

3229
02:02:19,189 --> 02:02:16,480
who doesn't live in the united states

3230
02:02:20,870 --> 02:02:19,199
she lives in canada i believe

3231
02:02:23,510 --> 02:02:20,880
and she's having this encounters with

3232
02:02:25,270 --> 02:02:23,520
these gray type ets she says it's very

3233
02:02:27,270 --> 02:02:25,280
friendly they're teaching her about

3234
02:02:29,350 --> 02:02:27,280
healing and she's communicating with

3235
02:02:31,270 --> 02:02:29,360
them telepathically

3236
02:02:32,790 --> 02:02:31,280
and but

3237
02:02:35,109 --> 02:02:32,800
some of the cases take a while to

3238
02:02:37,830 --> 02:02:35,119
trickle in i think if you go to like the

3239
02:02:39,030 --> 02:02:37,840
mufon or the ufo reporting service

3240
02:02:41,030 --> 02:02:39,040
you'll see that

3241
02:02:42,470 --> 02:02:41,040
there's pretty much a constant stream of

3242
02:02:45,189 --> 02:02:42,480
reports

3243
02:02:47,350 --> 02:02:45,199
while sightings are most common it takes

3244
02:02:49,750 --> 02:02:47,360
some times a while for you know the

3245
02:02:51,830 --> 02:02:49,760
bigger cases entity cases

3246
02:02:54,870 --> 02:02:51,840
sort of trickle down to me

3247
02:02:56,390 --> 02:02:54,880
so there's sort of a time lag there but

3248
02:02:58,229 --> 02:02:56,400
yeah i think they're still going on i

3249
02:02:59,109 --> 02:02:58,239
haven't seen any slowdown of abductions

3250
02:03:01,109 --> 02:02:59,119
like i've

3251
02:03:03,270 --> 02:03:01,119
heard some people say this stuff is

3252
02:03:05,030 --> 02:03:03,280
definitely still going on

3253
02:03:07,189 --> 02:03:05,040
that's been an argument some people make

3254
02:03:09,830 --> 02:03:07,199
that we don't hear as many of certain

3255
02:03:12,149 --> 02:03:09,840
types of cases such as close encounters

3256
02:03:14,629 --> 02:03:12,159
and also about abductions so you're

3257
02:03:16,390 --> 02:03:14,639
still seeing a pretty good number yeah

3258
02:03:17,830 --> 02:03:16,400
you know like i said it takes a while

3259
02:03:20,070 --> 02:03:17,840
i'm going to say you know i don't see

3260
02:03:20,950 --> 02:03:20,080
any from this year but i bet you next

3261
02:03:22,470 --> 02:03:20,960
year

3262
02:03:24,550 --> 02:03:22,480
i'll probably get people telling me oh

3263
02:03:26,229 --> 02:03:24,560
this happened to me last year

3264
02:03:28,709 --> 02:03:26,239
that's kind of what i mean i still think

3265
02:03:32,390 --> 02:03:28,719
yeah it's pretty active i'm not seeing

3266
02:03:34,629 --> 02:03:32,400
any market change in that area no

3267
02:03:37,189 --> 02:03:34,639
well speaking about that without limits

3268
02:03:39,350 --> 02:03:37,199
uh number nine uh has a question where

3269
02:03:41,189 --> 02:03:39,360
have all the ufos gone in the 60s to the

3270
02:03:43,669 --> 02:03:41,199
80s we were inundated with a laundry

3271
02:03:45,910 --> 02:03:43,679
list of sightings photographs videos

3272
02:03:48,870 --> 02:03:45,920
now despite everyone having a camera in

3273
02:03:51,830 --> 02:03:48,880
their pocket the number of new major ufo

3274
02:03:53,669 --> 02:03:51,840
cases with photo and video evidence

3275
02:03:55,990 --> 02:03:53,679
appears to have fallen off

3276
02:03:56,790 --> 02:03:56,000
even when there is a massive case no one

3277
02:03:58,629 --> 02:03:56,800
has

3278
02:04:00,950 --> 02:03:58,639
a camera nearby like he gives the

3279
02:04:04,070 --> 02:04:00,960
example of stevensville the o'hare

3280
02:04:06,149 --> 02:04:04,080
airport uh case in 2008.

3281
02:04:08,310 --> 02:04:06,159
if people are at an airport many of them

3282
02:04:10,149 --> 02:04:08,320
who are traveling with cameras why can't

3283
02:04:12,149 --> 02:04:10,159
they photograph a large disc hovering

3284
02:04:14,550 --> 02:04:12,159
over a major airport

3285
02:04:16,950 --> 02:04:14,560
and what does this suggest to you

3286
02:04:18,310 --> 02:04:16,960
well i think what happens is it's

3287
02:04:20,070 --> 02:04:18,320
different from

3288
02:04:22,149 --> 02:04:20,080
earlier times because

3289
02:04:24,470 --> 02:04:22,159
the whole phenomena has become saturated

3290
02:04:27,030 --> 02:04:24,480
it's extremely popular on the internet

3291
02:04:29,189 --> 02:04:27,040
people will photograph a ufo and where

3292
02:04:30,550 --> 02:04:29,199
do they put it i mean who do you

3293
02:04:33,189 --> 02:04:30,560
give it to

3294
02:04:35,990 --> 02:04:33,199
there are people taking photographs of

3295
02:04:37,669 --> 02:04:36,000
ufos but photographic evidence is not as

3296
02:04:39,510 --> 02:04:37,679
good as it used to be because it's so

3297
02:04:41,030 --> 02:04:39,520
darn easy to fake

3298
02:04:43,910 --> 02:04:41,040
there are some really remarkable

3299
02:04:46,390 --> 02:04:43,920
photographs of the mexico city

3300
02:04:49,430 --> 02:04:46,400
citing during the eclipse that was back

3301
02:04:51,030 --> 02:04:49,440
in the 90s there are cases photographs

3302
02:04:53,510 --> 02:04:51,040
of the o'hara

3303
02:04:55,990 --> 02:04:53,520
flying saucer over the o'er airport

3304
02:04:57,750 --> 02:04:56,000
there are oh yeah there's photographs of

3305
02:04:59,109 --> 02:04:57,760
the hole in the clouds but i've never

3306
02:05:00,550 --> 02:04:59,119
heard of any object

3307
02:05:02,229 --> 02:05:00,560
oh yeah there's a number of different

3308
02:05:05,030 --> 02:05:02,239
photos i mean if you can google it and

3309
02:05:07,030 --> 02:05:05,040
you'll see they'll come right up

3310
02:05:08,870 --> 02:05:07,040
i'll just have to do that

3311
02:05:09,669 --> 02:05:08,880
so definitely there are photographs out

3312
02:05:12,149 --> 02:05:09,679
there

3313
02:05:13,750 --> 02:05:12,159
but it's frustrating i agree that to a

3314
02:05:14,790 --> 02:05:13,760
certain extent your the whole phenomenon

3315
02:05:16,229 --> 02:05:14,800
is being

3316
02:05:18,790 --> 02:05:16,239
handled differently

3317
02:05:21,430 --> 02:05:18,800
publicity-wise it's very difficult to

3318
02:05:23,430 --> 02:05:21,440
get this stuff onto the mainstream news

3319
02:05:25,510 --> 02:05:23,440
usually there's one or two sightings a

3320
02:05:27,430 --> 02:05:25,520
year that might make it

3321
02:05:30,790 --> 02:05:27,440
but it's not like it used to be

3322
02:05:32,950 --> 02:05:30,800
now i just did a look here at google ufo

3323
02:05:34,629 --> 02:05:32,960
photos at o'hare airport

3324
02:05:37,430 --> 02:05:34,639
and i found a few but they're kind of

3325
02:05:39,109 --> 02:05:37,440
questionable that's what i'm saying is

3326
02:05:39,830 --> 02:05:39,119
what's what's good about the o'hare case

3327
02:05:41,910 --> 02:05:39,840
is

3328
02:05:43,430 --> 02:05:41,920
there are a lot of witnesses it did

3329
02:05:45,510 --> 02:05:43,440
cause some controversy we do know that

3330
02:05:48,070 --> 02:05:45,520
there were some maintenance workers and

3331
02:05:50,070 --> 02:05:48,080
airport personnel who saw this stuff and

3332
02:05:52,310 --> 02:05:50,080
were told not to talk about it

3333
02:05:53,830 --> 02:05:52,320
it created quite a bit of an uproar and

3334
02:05:55,350 --> 02:05:53,840
that's kind of what made it i think get

3335
02:05:56,149 --> 02:05:55,360
into the news

3336
02:05:59,350 --> 02:05:56,159
and

3337
02:06:01,270 --> 02:05:59,360
while the photographs you know

3338
02:06:02,390 --> 02:06:01,280
they'd have to be studied by an expert

3339
02:06:04,070 --> 02:06:02,400
really

3340
02:06:05,830 --> 02:06:04,080
but if you can connect them to a witness

3341
02:06:07,669 --> 02:06:05,840
and multiply witnesses well then you

3342
02:06:09,669 --> 02:06:07,679
start to have a good case a single

3343
02:06:11,510 --> 02:06:09,679
photograph by a single witness is

3344
02:06:12,870 --> 02:06:11,520
not good evidence anymore i'm sorry it's

3345
02:06:15,030 --> 02:06:12,880
just not

3346
02:06:16,950 --> 02:06:15,040
well the ones i looked at the first two

3347
02:06:19,589 --> 02:06:16,960
or three i looked at they were a little

3348
02:06:21,510 --> 02:06:19,599
too obvious if you get my point i think

3349
02:06:23,270 --> 02:06:21,520
chris can tell you about that

3350
02:06:24,229 --> 02:06:23,280
i think if you get a crowd of witnesses

3351
02:06:26,149 --> 02:06:24,239
though

3352
02:06:27,750 --> 02:06:26,159
and okay sure if you have a photograph

3353
02:06:29,589 --> 02:06:27,760
if you have witnesses

3354
02:06:31,589 --> 02:06:29,599
who say i saw this and it looked this

3355
02:06:34,069 --> 02:06:31,599
way and then you have the photograph

3356
02:06:36,790 --> 02:06:34,079
that doesn't show any obvious signs of

3357
02:06:37,589 --> 02:06:36,800
fakery you'd have a point sure

3358
02:06:39,990 --> 02:06:37,599
right

3359
02:06:41,510 --> 02:06:40,000
and that's that almost got to that point

3360
02:06:42,790 --> 02:06:41,520
i don't think anyone's actually been

3361
02:06:43,910 --> 02:06:42,800
able to

3362
02:06:46,870 --> 02:06:43,920
contact these people who are

3363
02:06:48,069 --> 02:06:46,880
photographing the o'hare case but uh

3364
02:06:49,910 --> 02:06:48,079
that would certainly make an interesting

3365
02:06:51,910 --> 02:06:49,920
study

3366
02:06:55,270 --> 02:06:51,920
well you would think that a photograph

3367
02:06:58,470 --> 02:06:55,280
of a case that had that much publicity

3368
02:07:00,709 --> 02:06:58,480
uh would be produced right away

3369
02:07:03,030 --> 02:07:00,719
and people wanting to

3370
02:07:05,030 --> 02:07:03,040
expose any sort of visual evidence that

3371
02:07:06,629 --> 02:07:05,040
they were able to obtain

3372
02:07:08,310 --> 02:07:06,639
they would they would come out with it

3373
02:07:09,750 --> 02:07:08,320
right away i would think

3374
02:07:10,709 --> 02:07:09,760
i could be wrong

3375
02:07:12,629 --> 02:07:10,719
it's

3376
02:07:15,109 --> 02:07:12,639
when they come out two three four years

3377
02:07:16,870 --> 02:07:15,119
later anonymously that i've got a bit of

3378
02:07:19,030 --> 02:07:16,880
a problem with

3379
02:07:21,430 --> 02:07:19,040
yeah well the problem is some of the

3380
02:07:22,950 --> 02:07:21,440
best cases get viciously attacked and

3381
02:07:25,189 --> 02:07:22,960
people are learning the hard way that

3382
02:07:26,870 --> 02:07:25,199
going public has its consequences when

3383
02:07:28,950 --> 02:07:26,880
you've got a i mean look what happened

3384
02:07:31,350 --> 02:07:28,960
at gulf breeze that divided the whole

3385
02:07:32,870 --> 02:07:31,360
ufo community as to the whole billy

3386
02:07:35,030 --> 02:07:32,880
meyer case

3387
02:07:37,189 --> 02:07:35,040
well billy meyer of course it stands to

3388
02:07:39,270 --> 02:07:37,199
reason why

3389
02:07:42,149 --> 02:07:39,280
just look at the wedding cake photograph

3390
02:07:43,750 --> 02:07:42,159
that's i rest my case

3391
02:07:45,350 --> 02:07:43,760
well here let's let's go to some more

3392
02:07:48,149 --> 02:07:45,360
questions before we run out of time

3393
02:07:50,149 --> 02:07:48,159
without limits has another question

3394
02:07:52,550 --> 02:07:50,159
and since we were talking about skeptics

3395
02:07:54,390 --> 02:07:52,560
jumping on cases

3396
02:07:56,629 --> 02:07:54,400
what are a few cases that you think the

3397
02:07:58,069 --> 02:07:56,639
skeptics are just totally wrong about uh

3398
02:08:00,149 --> 02:07:58,079
give us a

3399
02:08:01,510 --> 02:08:00,159
kind of your laundry list

3400
02:08:03,430 --> 02:08:01,520
well i mean

3401
02:08:05,189 --> 02:08:03,440
there's an enormous number of

3402
02:08:07,430 --> 02:08:05,199
outstanding cases

3403
02:08:08,629 --> 02:08:07,440
and there are skeptics and there are

3404
02:08:10,310 --> 02:08:08,639
debunkers

3405
02:08:12,149 --> 02:08:10,320
i mean for instance the travis walton

3406
02:08:13,270 --> 02:08:12,159
case was viciously attacked by phil

3407
02:08:15,270 --> 02:08:13,280
class

3408
02:08:17,189 --> 02:08:15,280
and uh who i think was a professional

3409
02:08:18,229 --> 02:08:17,199
debunker

3410
02:08:21,189 --> 02:08:18,239
uh

3411
02:08:23,270 --> 02:08:21,199
and yet that case i think is outstanding

3412
02:08:24,870 --> 02:08:23,280
it's an outstanding case i mean

3413
02:08:26,870 --> 02:08:24,880
supported by lie detector tests and

3414
02:08:27,669 --> 02:08:26,880
multiple eyewitnesses

3415
02:08:29,350 --> 02:08:27,679
so

3416
02:08:30,709 --> 02:08:29,360
you know there are researchers who have

3417
02:08:31,910 --> 02:08:30,719
back pedaled

3418
02:08:33,189 --> 02:08:31,920
and

3419
02:08:34,790 --> 02:08:33,199
on cases

3420
02:08:36,950 --> 02:08:34,800
i still think the roswell case is an

3421
02:08:38,709 --> 02:08:36,960
outstanding case there's just way too

3422
02:08:39,750 --> 02:08:38,719
many witnesses

3423
02:08:40,950 --> 02:08:39,760
uh

3424
02:08:42,629 --> 02:08:40,960
there are a number of cases i mean the

3425
02:08:45,990 --> 02:08:42,639
rental shrimp forest incident that's

3426
02:08:50,149 --> 02:08:47,589
i think that

3427
02:08:51,510 --> 02:08:50,159
skeptics if you look at the evidence

3428
02:08:52,709 --> 02:08:51,520
that's out there and you objectively

3429
02:08:54,950 --> 02:08:52,719
look at it

3430
02:08:57,669 --> 02:08:54,960
look at the landing trace cases

3431
02:08:59,510 --> 02:08:57,679
look at the uh

3432
02:09:00,709 --> 02:08:59,520
the angel hair cases

3433
02:09:02,790 --> 02:09:00,719
look at the

3434
02:09:04,870 --> 02:09:02,800
radar return cases

3435
02:09:06,950 --> 02:09:04,880
look at the animal effect cases the

3436
02:09:08,629 --> 02:09:06,960
electromagnetic instrument cases the

3437
02:09:10,790 --> 02:09:08,639
injury cases

3438
02:09:12,709 --> 02:09:10,800
a good example is the falcon lake case

3439
02:09:14,069 --> 02:09:12,719
with stephen myshalek

3440
02:09:16,709 --> 02:09:14,079
who

3441
02:09:19,030 --> 02:09:16,719
that case involved landing traces and

3442
02:09:21,270 --> 02:09:19,040
also involves some outstanding medical

3443
02:09:22,310 --> 02:09:21,280
evidence in that

3444
02:09:23,669 --> 02:09:22,320
he

3445
02:09:25,350 --> 02:09:23,679
suffered from what appears to be some

3446
02:09:26,550 --> 02:09:25,360
form of radiation sickness he was

3447
02:09:29,270 --> 02:09:26,560
examined by

3448
02:09:32,229 --> 02:09:29,280
over a dozen doctors his blood count

3449
02:09:33,669 --> 02:09:32,239
dropped to very dangerous levels and uh

3450
02:09:35,430 --> 02:09:33,679
just

3451
02:09:37,750 --> 02:09:35,440
no way to explain this unless he was

3452
02:09:39,510 --> 02:09:37,760
exposed to some sort of radiation

3453
02:09:42,709 --> 02:09:39,520
yeah which supports that

3454
02:09:44,550 --> 02:09:42,719
too uh speaking of radiation cases

3455
02:09:46,310 --> 02:09:44,560
yeah so i mean there's all kinds of

3456
02:09:47,990 --> 02:09:46,320
outstanding evidence and i understand

3457
02:09:50,149 --> 02:09:48,000
skepticism i used to be very skeptical

3458
02:09:51,350 --> 02:09:50,159
of the subject and it's really hard i

3459
02:09:53,750 --> 02:09:51,360
think for people to swallow when it's

3460
02:09:55,589 --> 02:09:53,760
coming along with bigfoot and levitation

3461
02:09:58,390 --> 02:09:55,599
and telepathy and invisibility and

3462
02:10:00,069 --> 02:09:58,400
walking through walls so it's a big pill

3463
02:10:03,510 --> 02:10:00,079
to swallow

3464
02:10:06,310 --> 02:10:03,520
right a big nasty horse pill well um he

3465
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asked kind of a reverse question

3466
02:10:10,950 --> 02:10:08,400
what are a few cases that the die-hard

3467
02:10:13,189 --> 02:10:10,960
believers are totally wrong about

3468
02:10:14,790 --> 02:10:13,199
before we have that answer let's just

3469
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reverse and break

3470
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again have another cliffhanger preston

3471
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dennett is telling us lots of

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live well beyond 120 see you in

3570
02:14:26,950 --> 02:14:25,760
knoxville may the 18th dr joel

3571
02:14:29,270 --> 02:14:26,960
wellington will be at new friendship

3572
02:14:31,109 --> 02:14:29,280
baptist church 1933 texas avenue

3573
02:14:33,109 --> 02:14:31,119
knoxville may the 19th dr wallach will

3574
02:14:35,350 --> 02:14:33,119
be at the holiday inn world's fair park

3575
02:14:42,069 --> 02:14:35,360
525 henley street downtown knoxville

3576
02:14:47,109 --> 02:14:44,950
hi this is james fox from chasing ufos

3577
02:14:53,030 --> 02:14:47,119
you're listening to the paracast the

3578
02:14:57,990 --> 02:14:54,950
questions on the table preston let's

3579
02:15:01,350 --> 02:14:59,350
it's hard to speak to you know a

3580
02:15:04,149 --> 02:15:01,360
question like that because there are

3581
02:15:06,069 --> 02:15:04,159
cases that divide the community i mean

3582
02:15:07,830 --> 02:15:06,079
the corey good case is very popular

3583
02:15:09,830 --> 02:15:07,840
right now i've never heard of blue

3584
02:15:12,069 --> 02:15:09,840
avians i've talked to an enormous number

3585
02:15:14,550 --> 02:15:12,079
of people and never heard of any et like

3586
02:15:15,910 --> 02:15:14,560
that i'm not saying it's not true

3587
02:15:17,669 --> 02:15:15,920
but you know

3588
02:15:18,790 --> 02:15:17,679
these people come along and i'm

3589
02:15:20,069 --> 02:15:18,800
concerned that they're just trying to

3590
02:15:21,510 --> 02:15:20,079
make a buck

3591
02:15:23,910 --> 02:15:21,520
i'm not saying that that's the case with

3592
02:15:25,990 --> 02:15:23,920
him at all you know i'm just saying

3593
02:15:28,310 --> 02:15:26,000
you see a case that's absolutely unique

3594
02:15:29,830 --> 02:15:28,320
and there's no precedent for it

3595
02:15:31,350 --> 02:15:29,840
well i have to kind of take it with a

3596
02:15:34,830 --> 02:15:31,360
grain of salt and wait till i can get

3597
02:15:38,790 --> 02:15:36,629
serpo

3598
02:15:41,189 --> 02:15:38,800
that's one of my favorite the the john

3599
02:15:43,830 --> 02:15:41,199
edmonds case where he took his samurai

3600
02:15:44,950 --> 02:15:43,840
sword and sliced a piece of alien uh off

3601
02:15:46,310 --> 02:15:44,960
and

3602
02:15:47,750 --> 02:15:46,320
sent it off to levin good where it

3603
02:15:48,950 --> 02:15:47,760
disappeared

3604
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:48,960
that's another one that i kind of

3605
02:15:52,470 --> 02:15:50,560
scratch my head about

3606
02:15:53,910 --> 02:15:52,480
right yeah i for the most part i find

3607
02:15:56,149 --> 02:15:53,920
that people are

3608
02:15:57,669 --> 02:15:56,159
very reluctant to come forward

3609
02:16:00,229 --> 02:15:57,679
with their stories

3610
02:16:02,629 --> 02:16:00,239
and having interviewed a lot of people

3611
02:16:04,470 --> 02:16:02,639
i think for the most part that hoaxes

3612
02:16:06,310 --> 02:16:04,480
are pretty darn rare

3613
02:16:08,550 --> 02:16:06,320
that has just been my experience as an

3614
02:16:11,430 --> 02:16:08,560
investigator

3615
02:16:13,430 --> 02:16:11,440
just go to those hawaiian brothers

3616
02:16:15,430 --> 02:16:13,440
youtube channel you'll get more than you

3617
02:16:18,310 --> 02:16:15,440
could possibly ever imagine

3618
02:16:20,310 --> 02:16:18,320
oh the photographic stuff yeah and

3619
02:16:21,669 --> 02:16:20,320
that's a problem

3620
02:16:23,669 --> 02:16:21,679
photographs used to be really good

3621
02:16:25,189 --> 02:16:23,679
evidence like the trinidad island

3622
02:16:29,510 --> 02:16:25,199
photographs or the

3623
02:16:31,109 --> 02:16:29,520
the trent the mcnindell photographs or a

3624
02:16:32,870 --> 02:16:31,119
bunch of really interesting photographic

3625
02:16:34,309 --> 02:16:32,880
cases which i think

3626
02:16:36,389 --> 02:16:34,319
still stand up

3627
02:16:38,870 --> 02:16:36,399
but now if you get a photograph of the

3628
02:16:40,549 --> 02:16:38,880
ufo you better darn well

3629
02:16:42,549 --> 02:16:40,559
have some other witnesses who's how you

3630
02:16:44,070 --> 02:16:42,559
take that photo and are willing to stand

3631
02:16:44,830 --> 02:16:44,080
behind you

3632
02:16:48,549 --> 02:16:44,840
i

3633
02:16:51,030 --> 02:16:48,559
agree okay here's here's one from a

3634
02:16:53,349 --> 02:16:51,040
a fairly new member of the forum

3635
02:16:55,750 --> 02:16:53,359
uh where we post questions for our

3636
02:16:57,830 --> 02:16:55,760
guests at forum.theparacast.com

3637
02:17:00,070 --> 02:16:57,840
so come on listeners uh get your

3638
02:17:03,429 --> 02:17:00,080
questions in for us well assuming that

3639
02:17:05,349 --> 02:17:03,439
the ufo phenomenon is not e.t

3640
02:17:08,230 --> 02:17:05,359
i would like to ask mr dennett how he

3641
02:17:10,469 --> 02:17:08,240
feels how an e.t visitation contact

3642
02:17:11,990 --> 02:17:10,479
scenario would unfold is it fair to

3643
02:17:14,230 --> 02:17:12,000
assume it would run similar to what we

3644
02:17:16,150 --> 02:17:14,240
have seen these past 70 years or so

3645
02:17:18,549 --> 02:17:16,160
that's kind of a weird question well

3646
02:17:20,389 --> 02:17:18,559
let's consider it not real but if it

3647
02:17:22,549 --> 02:17:20,399
does happen would it happen the same way

3648
02:17:23,589 --> 02:17:22,559
that unreality happens

3649
02:17:25,669 --> 02:17:23,599
um

3650
02:17:27,589 --> 02:17:25,679
i'm not trying to answer that

3651
02:17:29,750 --> 02:17:27,599
well i think that when we think about

3652
02:17:30,629 --> 02:17:29,760
et's contacting humans we still haven't

3653
02:17:32,709 --> 02:17:30,639
had

3654
02:17:34,629 --> 02:17:32,719
open official contact with the public at

3655
02:17:36,549 --> 02:17:34,639
large not really

3656
02:17:38,309 --> 02:17:36,559
yes maybe they've contacted

3657
02:17:40,389 --> 02:17:38,319
you know edwards air force base there

3658
02:17:41,669 --> 02:17:40,399
was that meeting that rumor with

3659
02:17:43,270 --> 02:17:41,679
eisenhower

3660
02:17:44,870 --> 02:17:43,280
and i think there's this sort of

3661
02:17:47,830 --> 02:17:44,880
assumption that we have that

3662
02:17:49,190 --> 02:17:47,840
take me to your leader kind of mentality

3663
02:17:51,429 --> 02:17:49,200
why haven't they landed on the white

3664
02:17:52,309 --> 02:17:51,439
house lawns sort of thing

3665
02:17:55,509 --> 02:17:52,319
um

3666
02:17:57,830 --> 02:17:55,519
it's really hard to say how e.t contact

3667
02:17:59,910 --> 02:17:57,840
would officially take place or how this

3668
02:18:01,830 --> 02:17:59,920
all went down even we still don't

3669
02:18:03,830 --> 02:18:01,840
entirely know

3670
02:18:05,509 --> 02:18:03,840
i think that to a certain extent that's

3671
02:18:08,629 --> 02:18:05,519
what they were doing when they flew over

3672
02:18:11,190 --> 02:18:08,639
the white house in the 1950s at 52 and i

3673
02:18:12,629 --> 02:18:11,200
believe again 54 or something around

3674
02:18:14,549 --> 02:18:12,639
there

3675
02:18:17,270 --> 02:18:14,559
really dramatic cases where i mean

3676
02:18:18,549 --> 02:18:17,280
they're right over washington dc

3677
02:18:20,629 --> 02:18:18,559
airspace

3678
02:18:22,309 --> 02:18:20,639
putting on what appears to be a display

3679
02:18:26,150 --> 02:18:22,319
saying here we are

3680
02:18:27,910 --> 02:18:26,160
and what did we do we chase after them

3681
02:18:32,070 --> 02:18:27,920
and there are photographs

3682
02:18:33,750 --> 02:18:32,080
right so i think that that's how i mean

3683
02:18:35,669 --> 02:18:33,760
i think if we were a different society

3684
02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:35,679
et contact would have

3685
02:18:38,709 --> 02:18:36,960
happened very differently they could

3686
02:18:40,629 --> 02:18:38,719
have just landed and

3687
02:18:42,309 --> 02:18:40,639
you know come out and

3688
02:18:44,870 --> 02:18:42,319
we'd shake hands

3689
02:18:46,629 --> 02:18:44,880
but we're all in society

3690
02:18:49,110 --> 02:18:46,639
maybe maybe we're seeing it right now

3691
02:18:49,990 --> 02:18:49,120
maybe trump's an e.t with a bad toupee

3692
02:18:51,830 --> 02:18:50,000
and

3693
02:18:55,429 --> 02:18:51,840
actually if you pulled his mask off he'd

3694
02:18:58,870 --> 02:18:55,439
have almond shaped eyes and be bald

3695
02:19:01,910 --> 02:18:58,880
or reptilian even we don't know

3696
02:19:04,469 --> 02:19:01,920
i'm thinking of the tv show v

3697
02:19:07,110 --> 02:19:04,479
right her childhood's in

3698
02:19:10,309 --> 02:19:07,120
oh yes childhoods and i didn't like the

3699
02:19:12,469 --> 02:19:10,319
tv version of it childhoods end

3700
02:19:13,830 --> 02:19:12,479
i don't know it was pretty pretty scary

3701
02:19:15,669 --> 02:19:13,840
they

3702
02:19:17,830 --> 02:19:15,679
kind of went straight from the book

3703
02:19:19,990 --> 02:19:17,840
unfortunately

3704
02:19:21,750 --> 02:19:20,000
i saw a few areas where it was different

3705
02:19:23,110 --> 02:19:21,760
but still

3706
02:19:25,270 --> 02:19:23,120
i think there is some evidence to say

3707
02:19:26,309 --> 02:19:25,280
that et's are walking among us that's

3708
02:19:29,509 --> 02:19:26,319
one of the

3709
02:19:31,589 --> 02:19:29,519
chapters in my book not from here okay

3710
02:19:34,150 --> 02:19:31,599
let's go into that then all right let's

3711
02:19:36,790 --> 02:19:34,160
hit that now obviously there are some

3712
02:19:38,950 --> 02:19:36,800
skepticism on my part in chris's

3713
02:19:42,469 --> 02:19:38,960
as to what might be walking amongst us

3714
02:19:44,230 --> 02:19:42,479
but all right if e.t is here

3715
02:19:46,230 --> 02:19:44,240
would we recognize them or would they

3716
02:19:48,549 --> 02:19:46,240
look like anybody else

3717
02:19:51,670 --> 02:19:48,559
i mean it would be a guy who wears

3718
02:19:55,510 --> 02:19:51,680
a hat and has kind of long

3719
02:20:00,469 --> 02:19:55,520
light brown hair with a beard

3720
02:20:03,670 --> 02:20:00,479
um well the cases that i put together

3721
02:20:05,270 --> 02:20:03,680
involve a variety of vts some that look

3722
02:20:07,190 --> 02:20:05,280
very close to human some that look

3723
02:20:10,309 --> 02:20:07,200
straight up gray

3724
02:20:12,070 --> 02:20:10,319
or are in some sort of a disguise

3725
02:20:14,950 --> 02:20:12,080
people are reporting having seen some of

3726
02:20:17,270 --> 02:20:14,960
these really strange looking figures

3727
02:20:19,990 --> 02:20:17,280
in public places like uh

3728
02:20:21,110 --> 02:20:20,000
bookstores gas stations convenience

3729
02:20:23,429 --> 02:20:21,120
stores

3730
02:20:25,910 --> 02:20:23,439
uh casinos there's a whole

3731
02:20:28,070 --> 02:20:25,920
group of casino encounters

3732
02:20:31,429 --> 02:20:28,080
i think one of my favorite is

3733
02:20:33,830 --> 02:20:31,439
comes from bruce lee who's the editor of

3734
02:20:35,190 --> 02:20:33,840
whitley strieber's book communion

3735
02:20:37,590 --> 02:20:35,200
okay we're not talking about the bruce

3736
02:20:39,750 --> 02:20:37,600
lee that we remember then

3737
02:20:41,429 --> 02:20:39,760
no not the karate guy

3738
02:20:42,710 --> 02:20:41,439
this is a editor who worked for morro

3739
02:20:45,910 --> 02:20:42,720
books

3740
02:20:47,910 --> 02:20:45,920
and says that he was in new york

3741
02:20:51,030 --> 02:20:47,920
and saw this bookstore and wanted to go

3742
02:20:52,870 --> 02:20:51,040
check out the new display of communion

3743
02:20:55,110 --> 02:20:52,880
went inside and saw these figures

3744
02:20:57,190 --> 02:20:55,120
standing right up next to the display

3745
02:20:58,790 --> 02:20:57,200
picking up a book and he said what was

3746
02:20:59,990 --> 02:20:58,800
really bizarre is they were

3747
02:21:01,990 --> 02:21:00,000
completely

3748
02:21:03,349 --> 02:21:02,000
covered from head to toe and you know

3749
02:21:06,070 --> 02:21:03,359
clothes and

3750
02:21:08,070 --> 02:21:06,080
hats and giant sunglasses you couldn't

3751
02:21:09,590 --> 02:21:08,080
really see any of their skin at all and

3752
02:21:11,349 --> 02:21:09,600
they were holding up one of these books

3753
02:21:13,750 --> 02:21:11,359
and speed reading it

3754
02:21:15,190 --> 02:21:13,760
and and saying oh this part is wrong and

3755
02:21:16,070 --> 02:21:15,200
that part is wrong and this sort of

3756
02:21:18,389 --> 02:21:16,080
thing

3757
02:21:20,469 --> 02:21:18,399
and he was oh interesting

3758
02:21:22,710 --> 02:21:20,479
so he walks up to them

3759
02:21:24,469 --> 02:21:22,720
and he says that they were not human one

3760
02:21:26,389 --> 02:21:24,479
turned look and looked at him and had

3761
02:21:28,070 --> 02:21:26,399
the largest set of

3762
02:21:29,190 --> 02:21:28,080
eyes he's ever seen

3763
02:21:31,349 --> 02:21:29,200
and it just

3764
02:21:33,429 --> 02:21:31,359
were not human eyes they were almond

3765
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:33,439
shaped and

3766
02:21:38,630 --> 02:21:35,120
enormous

3767
02:21:40,870 --> 02:21:38,640
and uh he got this very strong kind of

3768
02:21:41,990 --> 02:21:40,880
reaction that uh they did not want him

3769
02:21:44,070 --> 02:21:42,000
there at all

3770
02:21:46,710 --> 02:21:44,080
that was the impression he said he got

3771
02:21:48,469 --> 02:21:46,720
and he says it shook him up really bad

3772
02:21:50,150 --> 02:21:48,479
and uh that they did not look like

3773
02:21:51,750 --> 02:21:50,160
people

3774
02:21:55,830 --> 02:21:51,760
i think he'd spent too many editing

3775
02:21:58,550 --> 02:21:55,840
sessions on whitley's book

3776
02:22:00,550 --> 02:21:58,560
perhaps perhaps but you know he's not

3777
02:22:02,230 --> 02:22:00,560
the only one who says that

3778
02:22:05,190 --> 02:22:02,240
where do you come down on the uh the

3779
02:22:06,950 --> 02:22:05,200
david jacobs idea of hubrids where now

3780
02:22:09,830 --> 02:22:06,960
we have uh

3781
02:22:13,429 --> 02:22:09,840
abductees who are being tasked with uh

3782
02:22:16,309 --> 02:22:13,439
helping uh alien uh human hybrids uh

3783
02:22:17,830 --> 02:22:16,319
shop at walmart balance their checkbook

3784
02:22:18,630 --> 02:22:17,840
check out library books that sort of

3785
02:22:19,830 --> 02:22:18,640
thing

3786
02:22:22,710 --> 02:22:19,840
does that

3787
02:22:24,230 --> 02:22:22,720
have any sort of ring to you

3788
02:22:25,670 --> 02:22:24,240
i don't have a lot of cases like that

3789
02:22:27,830 --> 02:22:25,680
personally

3790
02:22:29,030 --> 02:22:27,840
um so it's hard for me to say i've

3791
02:22:31,030 --> 02:22:29,040
certainly talked to a number of

3792
02:22:33,429 --> 02:22:31,040
abductees

3793
02:22:36,790 --> 02:22:33,439
and a number of them do feel that

3794
02:22:39,349 --> 02:22:36,800
there are hybrids walking among us

3795
02:22:41,750 --> 02:22:39,359
and uh have seen them

3796
02:22:43,990 --> 02:22:41,760
but as far as teaching them and

3797
02:22:45,590 --> 02:22:44,000
aiding and abetting sort of this

3798
02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:45,600
invasion

3799
02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:47,280
no i don't have a lot of that

3800
02:22:51,110 --> 02:22:49,120
i think david jacobs takes a pretty dim

3801
02:22:53,670 --> 02:22:51,120
view of the future of humanity and that

3802
02:22:55,750 --> 02:22:53,680
we're going to be absorbed by the ets

3803
02:22:57,030 --> 02:22:55,760
but i i don't know if that's what's

3804
02:22:58,710 --> 02:22:57,040
going to happen i think we've already

3805
02:23:00,550 --> 02:22:58,720
been absorbed the evidence is that

3806
02:23:02,710 --> 02:23:00,560
they've been manipulating us genetically

3807
02:23:04,630 --> 02:23:02,720
for a very long time

3808
02:23:06,070 --> 02:23:04,640
and uh if they wanted to invade they

3809
02:23:07,110 --> 02:23:06,080
could have

3810
02:23:09,830 --> 02:23:07,120
uh i think

3811
02:23:11,030 --> 02:23:09,840
i mean the fact that some ets look just

3812
02:23:13,349 --> 02:23:11,040
like us

3813
02:23:15,270 --> 02:23:13,359
and are apparently interbreeding with us

3814
02:23:16,870 --> 02:23:15,280
this has to raise serious questions

3815
02:23:19,990 --> 02:23:16,880
about human origins

3816
02:23:21,429 --> 02:23:20,000
and who we really are

3817
02:23:22,950 --> 02:23:21,439
well why haven't we heard of any

3818
02:23:24,790 --> 02:23:22,960
scientific evidence some there's some

3819
02:23:27,110 --> 02:23:24,800
genetic evidence to back that up you

3820
02:23:29,349 --> 02:23:27,120
said the word evidence

3821
02:23:31,190 --> 02:23:29,359
what would constitute evidence

3822
02:23:33,510 --> 02:23:31,200
wouldn't it be some sort of unusual

3823
02:23:35,830 --> 02:23:33,520
off-planet dna or

3824
02:23:37,030 --> 02:23:35,840
some sort of genetic information that

3825
02:23:39,590 --> 02:23:37,040
would be

3826
02:23:41,590 --> 02:23:39,600
you know irrefutable

3827
02:23:43,110 --> 02:23:41,600
i think that's probably coming

3828
02:23:47,030 --> 02:23:43,120
i don't think we have it right now

3829
02:23:49,510 --> 02:23:47,040
irrefutable dna evidence of an e.t

3830
02:23:51,429 --> 02:23:49,520
no but what we do have is a lot of

3831
02:23:52,870 --> 02:23:51,439
reports of people

3832
02:23:54,550 --> 02:23:52,880
of these hybrids

3833
02:23:55,750 --> 02:23:54,560
a lot of reports of genetic material

3834
02:23:58,469 --> 02:23:55,760
being taken

3835
02:24:00,550 --> 02:23:58,479
reports stretching back into history of

3836
02:24:03,429 --> 02:24:00,560
this sort of thing of humans mating with

3837
02:24:04,230 --> 02:24:03,439
supernatural beings with the gods so to

3838
02:24:05,910 --> 02:24:04,240
speak

3839
02:24:08,150 --> 02:24:05,920
of people

3840
02:24:11,110 --> 02:24:08,160
coming from outer space and landing

3841
02:24:13,110 --> 02:24:11,120
and teaching us you know agriculture and

3842
02:24:15,190 --> 02:24:13,120
things like this that turns up in a lot

3843
02:24:16,469 --> 02:24:15,200
of native american cultures and

3844
02:24:17,910 --> 02:24:16,479
elsewhere

3845
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3846
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couple of questions for you preston

3847
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3854
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3855
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3856
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3859
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3926
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3927
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3955
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3956
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again

3957
02:28:49,030 --> 02:28:47,990
hi this is tracy tormey screenwriter

3958
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producer you're listening to the

3959
02:28:57,190 --> 02:28:51,840
paracast the gold standard of paranormal

3960
02:29:01,670 --> 02:28:59,670
okay preston dennett author of not from

3961
02:29:03,830 --> 02:29:01,680
here and loads of other books

3962
02:29:05,510 --> 02:29:03,840
all right we got genetic materials we've

3963
02:29:08,870 --> 02:29:05,520
got hybrids we've got all these

3964
02:29:10,469 --> 02:29:08,880
creatures running amongst us as chris is

3965
02:29:14,070 --> 02:29:10,479
already saying where's the evidence it's

3966
02:29:16,550 --> 02:29:14,080
very easy now to grab dna evidence

3967
02:29:18,309 --> 02:29:16,560
and not expensive to test it it doesn't

3968
02:29:20,550 --> 02:29:18,319
take that long and with all the

3969
02:29:23,910 --> 02:29:20,560
abductions that we've had all these

3970
02:29:26,710 --> 02:29:23,920
cases of alleged ets running about why

3971
02:29:28,469 --> 02:29:26,720
isn't there any evidence of who or what

3972
02:29:29,910 --> 02:29:28,479
they are well i mean there is an

3973
02:29:30,950 --> 02:29:29,920
enormous amount of evidence that they're

3974
02:29:34,150 --> 02:29:30,960
here

3975
02:29:37,349 --> 02:29:34,160
don't know what it is

3976
02:29:39,670 --> 02:29:37,359
well i think the most popular theory is

3977
02:29:41,429 --> 02:29:39,680
extraterrestrial it's certainly

3978
02:29:43,750 --> 02:29:41,439
not the only theory i mean we've heard

3979
02:29:45,590 --> 02:29:43,760
everything from interdimensional beings

3980
02:29:46,710 --> 02:29:45,600
to time travelers

3981
02:29:48,309 --> 02:29:46,720
and uh

3982
02:29:50,630 --> 02:29:48,319
shape shifters

3983
02:29:53,830 --> 02:29:50,640
or what have you i think that the et

3984
02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:53,840
theory by far fits the evidence best

3985
02:29:57,190 --> 02:29:56,000
and uh i think it's my assessment at

3986
02:29:59,750 --> 02:29:57,200
this point that that's what we're

3987
02:30:02,870 --> 02:29:59,760
dealing with now do we have genetic

3988
02:30:04,630 --> 02:30:02,880
evidence of them no we don't that's not

3989
02:30:06,790 --> 02:30:04,640
necessarily as easy to get as you might

3990
02:30:08,550 --> 02:30:06,800
think because when these guys walk into

3991
02:30:09,590 --> 02:30:08,560
your house they're the ones who are in

3992
02:30:11,590 --> 02:30:09,600
control

3993
02:30:13,270 --> 02:30:11,600
they are shutting down neighborhoods

3994
02:30:15,990 --> 02:30:13,280
when they abduct people

3995
02:30:18,230 --> 02:30:16,000
there's a really good case of that of uh

3996
02:30:21,030 --> 02:30:18,240
gosh what was his name the triangle

3997
02:30:23,110 --> 02:30:21,040
abduction by bill foster that's right in

3998
02:30:25,429 --> 02:30:23,120
north carolina they found out that when

3999
02:30:26,550 --> 02:30:25,439
they had their missing time experience

4000
02:30:27,990 --> 02:30:26,560
there was a

4001
02:30:30,469 --> 02:30:28,000
power failure

4002
02:30:32,389 --> 02:30:30,479
and a communications blackout

4003
02:30:34,309 --> 02:30:32,399
in that whole area where they were taken

4004
02:30:35,349 --> 02:30:34,319
bud hopkins has a number of cases where

4005
02:30:36,389 --> 02:30:35,359
people

4006
02:30:39,110 --> 02:30:36,399
have had

4007
02:30:40,870 --> 02:30:39,120
whole neighborhoods shut down i've seen

4008
02:30:43,750 --> 02:30:40,880
in my own experience some cases where

4009
02:30:46,150 --> 02:30:43,760
people are having a ufo encounter and

4010
02:30:48,070 --> 02:30:46,160
there's nobody on the road suddenly and

4011
02:30:49,910 --> 02:30:48,080
all the houses around

4012
02:30:51,590 --> 02:30:49,920
all their lights are off and they're

4013
02:30:54,469 --> 02:30:51,600
trying to wake up their partner or their

4014
02:30:55,990 --> 02:30:54,479
children and these people cannot be

4015
02:30:57,830 --> 02:30:56,000
woken up

4016
02:31:00,070 --> 02:30:57,840
so my point is

4017
02:31:02,230 --> 02:31:00,080
reason that we don't have better

4018
02:31:04,469 --> 02:31:02,240
evidence particularly of genetics or an

4019
02:31:07,110 --> 02:31:04,479
et body is because they're very much on

4020
02:31:09,670 --> 02:31:07,120
top of things their ability to

4021
02:31:11,750 --> 02:31:09,680
control and power over us is pretty darn

4022
02:31:13,830 --> 02:31:11,760
impressive i mean okay so the reason

4023
02:31:16,309 --> 02:31:13,840
that we don't have the evidence is that

4024
02:31:18,870 --> 02:31:16,319
they are manipulating us in such a way

4025
02:31:20,469 --> 02:31:18,880
that we can't get that evidence right

4026
02:31:21,990 --> 02:31:20,479
i think that's absolutely true to a

4027
02:31:24,070 --> 02:31:22,000
certain extent because they could end

4028
02:31:24,870 --> 02:31:24,080
this cover-up overnight if they wanted

4029
02:31:26,950 --> 02:31:24,880
to

4030
02:31:28,389 --> 02:31:26,960
that still assumes that everything is as

4031
02:31:30,469 --> 02:31:28,399
you say

4032
02:31:32,550 --> 02:31:30,479
um absolutely i mean well

4033
02:31:34,950 --> 02:31:32,560
i don't think the ufos are going away

4034
02:31:38,070 --> 02:31:34,960
the national ufo reporting service and

4035
02:31:40,469 --> 02:31:38,080
mufon get dozens of reports daily that

4036
02:31:43,750 --> 02:31:40,479
means at any given point on this planet

4037
02:31:45,590 --> 02:31:43,760
there are ufos visiting us right now so

4038
02:31:48,070 --> 02:31:45,600
that's what we're dealing with is a very

4039
02:31:50,389 --> 02:31:48,080
elusive slippery phenomenon

4040
02:31:51,190 --> 02:31:50,399
it seems to be escalating it's hard to

4041
02:31:53,270 --> 02:31:51,200
say

4042
02:31:55,990 --> 02:31:53,280
but we're seeing stuff like the mexico

4043
02:31:58,309 --> 02:31:56,000
city wave the topanga canyon wave the

4044
02:32:01,110 --> 02:31:58,319
phoenix lights the hudson valley wave

4045
02:32:03,910 --> 02:32:01,120
gulf breeze withville virginia i mean

4046
02:32:05,990 --> 02:32:03,920
the belgian wave it goes on and on and

4047
02:32:07,190 --> 02:32:06,000
on there's going to be another wave of

4048
02:32:09,670 --> 02:32:07,200
sightings there's going to be another

4049
02:32:11,990 --> 02:32:09,680
set of photographs more landing traces

4050
02:32:14,230 --> 02:32:12,000
and the evidence is building evidence is

4051
02:32:17,750 --> 02:32:14,240
conclusive in my mind within the public

4052
02:32:19,510 --> 02:32:17,760
arena there is plenty to prove that ets

4053
02:32:21,510 --> 02:32:19,520
are visiting us right now there's

4054
02:32:23,990 --> 02:32:21,520
evidence that something's busyness

4055
02:32:26,230 --> 02:32:24,000
whether it's off-planet or not i i still

4056
02:32:27,429 --> 02:32:26,240
think that particular scenario is

4057
02:32:29,110 --> 02:32:27,439
unproven

4058
02:32:30,389 --> 02:32:29,120
yeah well i think like i said it's the

4059
02:32:32,309 --> 02:32:30,399
best theory

4060
02:32:33,910 --> 02:32:32,319
um you can talk about interdimensional

4061
02:32:36,070 --> 02:32:33,920
travelers or time travelers or things

4062
02:32:38,389 --> 02:32:36,080
like this try not to speculate it's so

4063
02:32:40,309 --> 02:32:38,399
easy to speculate in this field we don't

4064
02:32:42,790 --> 02:32:40,319
know where they come from certainly

4065
02:32:45,750 --> 02:32:42,800
people have asked them and they've given

4066
02:32:47,429 --> 02:32:45,760
different responses zetta reticula and

4067
02:32:48,230 --> 02:32:47,439
the whole betty star map we've heard

4068
02:32:51,910 --> 02:32:48,240
that

4069
02:32:54,710 --> 02:32:51,920
from a number of different sources

4070
02:32:56,950 --> 02:32:54,720
actually i think the hill star map is a

4071
02:32:58,790 --> 02:32:56,960
red herring i think it's ridiculous

4072
02:33:00,550 --> 02:32:58,800
because we're talking here

4073
02:33:02,950 --> 02:33:00,560
about creatures who are very far

4074
02:33:04,070 --> 02:33:02,960
advanced traveling from one star system

4075
02:33:06,389 --> 02:33:04,080
to another

4076
02:33:08,469 --> 02:33:06,399
and they've got a star map give me a

4077
02:33:09,990 --> 02:33:08,479
break yeah well we're making up

4078
02:33:11,590 --> 02:33:10,000
assumptions we're kind of stuck with the

4079
02:33:13,429 --> 02:33:11,600
stories and there are a lot of accounts

4080
02:33:14,309 --> 02:33:13,439
that sort of echo

4081
02:33:16,230 --> 02:33:14,319
uh

4082
02:33:17,990 --> 02:33:16,240
betty hill's account

4083
02:33:20,070 --> 02:33:18,000
other people have seen that exact sort

4084
02:33:22,710 --> 02:33:20,080
of thing but that doesn't prove what

4085
02:33:24,790 --> 02:33:22,720
they are it only proves that something

4086
02:33:26,550 --> 02:33:24,800
is happening and i think this is where

4087
02:33:28,230 --> 02:33:26,560
the argument we make

4088
02:33:30,710 --> 02:33:28,240
about all this is

4089
02:33:33,030 --> 02:33:30,720
that yes we know there is a phenomenon

4090
02:33:35,349 --> 02:33:33,040
yes we know people having some perfectly

4091
02:33:38,630 --> 02:33:35,359
strange things happening to them but i

4092
02:33:40,710 --> 02:33:38,640
also wonder when it comes to

4093
02:33:42,790 --> 02:33:40,720
abductions or at least some abductions

4094
02:33:44,630 --> 02:33:42,800
the experience may not be physical it

4095
02:33:46,630 --> 02:33:44,640
may be something that's happening in

4096
02:33:49,349 --> 02:33:46,640
their subconscious they may be

4097
02:33:50,150 --> 02:33:49,359
interacting with an external force

4098
02:33:51,910 --> 02:33:50,160
but

4099
02:33:52,710 --> 02:33:51,920
we don't see the physical evidence at

4100
02:33:54,469 --> 02:33:52,720
all

4101
02:33:56,389 --> 02:33:54,479
i think there's no doubt it's physical

4102
02:33:57,910 --> 02:33:56,399
at least to a certain extent i mean we

4103
02:33:58,950 --> 02:33:57,920
know people are being scarred by this

4104
02:34:01,030 --> 02:33:58,960
physically

4105
02:34:02,790 --> 02:34:01,040
there's well they're scarred emotionally

4106
02:34:05,349 --> 02:34:02,800
certainly yeah and there's hundreds of

4107
02:34:07,190 --> 02:34:05,359
cases of people have been injured good

4108
02:34:08,790 --> 02:34:07,200
100 plus cases

4109
02:34:10,309 --> 02:34:08,800
people have been healed

4110
02:34:12,710 --> 02:34:10,319
and i mean we know it's physical whether

4111
02:34:14,790 --> 02:34:12,720
or not it's manifesting in some bizarre

4112
02:34:17,429 --> 02:34:14,800
way or whether this is some sort of you

4113
02:34:19,590 --> 02:34:17,439
know jacques valet theory of

4114
02:34:22,790 --> 02:34:19,600
a phenomena that takes down different

4115
02:34:23,750 --> 02:34:22,800
masks and tracks cultures and this sort

4116
02:34:25,429 --> 02:34:23,760
of thing

4117
02:34:27,750 --> 02:34:25,439
well that's certainly possible we don't

4118
02:34:30,469 --> 02:34:27,760
know exactly what we're dealing with

4119
02:34:32,070 --> 02:34:30,479
i do find that the et theory

4120
02:34:34,790 --> 02:34:32,080
very persuasive

4121
02:34:36,950 --> 02:34:34,800
simply because it's not anthropocentric

4122
02:34:38,950 --> 02:34:36,960
whereas the valet theory

4123
02:34:40,150 --> 02:34:38,960
kind of puts us at the center and saying

4124
02:34:43,110 --> 02:34:40,160
we're the center of the universe and

4125
02:34:45,030 --> 02:34:43,120
we're creating this and et's are for us

4126
02:34:46,389 --> 02:34:45,040
i'm not sure that that's

4127
02:34:48,070 --> 02:34:46,399
historically

4128
02:34:49,190 --> 02:34:48,080
those kind of theories fall by the

4129
02:34:51,349 --> 02:34:49,200
wayside

4130
02:34:53,030 --> 02:34:51,359
i think the best theory that this

4131
02:34:54,710 --> 02:34:53,040
is the extraterrestrials we're dealing

4132
02:34:56,150 --> 02:34:54,720
with is the fact that we're existing

4133
02:34:58,710 --> 02:34:56,160
ourselves

4134
02:35:00,550 --> 02:34:58,720
if we're the only ones i mean what does

4135
02:35:02,870 --> 02:35:00,560
that mean we're not saying we're the

4136
02:35:05,990 --> 02:35:02,880
only ones we're not saying that there

4137
02:35:08,070 --> 02:35:06,000
are no et's we're saying here that we

4138
02:35:11,270 --> 02:35:08,080
have a phenomenon here

4139
02:35:14,230 --> 02:35:11,280
that has persisted for a long long time

4140
02:35:15,910 --> 02:35:14,240
seems to take on a cultural aspect in

4141
02:35:17,349 --> 02:35:15,920
terms of how it's developed and is

4142
02:35:19,670 --> 02:35:17,359
perceived

4143
02:35:21,670 --> 02:35:19,680
and it's elusive enough that we can

4144
02:35:24,230 --> 02:35:21,680
never get that last

4145
02:35:26,630 --> 02:35:24,240
bit of evidence to demonstrate what it

4146
02:35:29,110 --> 02:35:26,640
is it just kind of takes us

4147
02:35:31,270 --> 02:35:29,120
it leads us by the nose but it never

4148
02:35:33,429 --> 02:35:31,280
lets us hold on to it

4149
02:35:35,349 --> 02:35:33,439
we think we've got answers but we never

4150
02:35:36,870 --> 02:35:35,359
do you're assuming there that there's no

4151
02:35:38,389 --> 02:35:36,880
such thing as reverse engineering or

4152
02:35:42,790 --> 02:35:38,399
crashed ufos

4153
02:35:43,750 --> 02:35:42,800
know where the reverse engineering is

4154
02:35:45,349 --> 02:35:43,760
happening

4155
02:35:47,510 --> 02:35:45,359
what is the evidence night vision

4156
02:35:49,670 --> 02:35:47,520
goggles where is the reverse engineering

4157
02:35:51,830 --> 02:35:49,680
is there a single bit of evidence

4158
02:35:54,870 --> 02:35:51,840
anywhere of what the reverse engineering

4159
02:35:56,870 --> 02:35:54,880
has produced what has it done for our

4160
02:35:58,550 --> 02:35:56,880
technology that we could not have

4161
02:35:59,750 --> 02:35:58,560
developed ourselves

4162
02:36:02,070 --> 02:35:59,760
well it's very interesting that

4163
02:36:03,510 --> 02:36:02,080
technology has boomed at such a

4164
02:36:05,110 --> 02:36:03,520
prodigious rate that's kind of

4165
02:36:06,389 --> 02:36:05,120
coinciding with this whole alien

4166
02:36:11,030 --> 02:36:06,399
invasion

4167
02:36:15,910 --> 02:36:13,510
and steve wozniak they were in touch

4168
02:36:18,309 --> 02:36:15,920
with extraterrestrials and that's how we

4169
02:36:20,309 --> 02:36:18,319
got the apple one that's how we got the

4170
02:36:23,030 --> 02:36:20,319
iphone in the apple watch

4171
02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:23,040
i'm just kidding okay preston

4172
02:36:28,469 --> 02:36:25,760
seriously it's been a great great ride

4173
02:36:30,469 --> 02:36:28,479
and i'm really glad to have met you yeah

4174
02:36:33,190 --> 02:36:30,479
we got to get you back on uh good job

4175
02:36:35,510 --> 02:36:33,200
and and let me say before we say adieu

4176
02:36:37,429 --> 02:36:35,520
uh keep up the good work uh we need

4177
02:36:39,270 --> 02:36:37,439
people like you out in the field you're

4178
02:36:41,830 --> 02:36:39,280
doing a great job and keep it up and

4179
02:36:43,910 --> 02:36:41,840
remember also preston because we may

4180
02:36:45,830 --> 02:36:43,920
disagree it doesn't mean that you're not

4181
02:36:47,510 --> 02:36:45,840
our friend thanks very much yeah i

4182
02:36:49,910 --> 02:36:47,520
appreciate that was i had a blast

4183
02:36:51,270 --> 02:36:49,920
talking with you guys and yeah anytime

4184
02:36:53,190 --> 02:36:51,280
can you tell our listeners where they

4185
02:36:55,190 --> 02:36:53,200
can find more of the stuff you do oh

4186
02:36:56,309 --> 02:36:55,200
yeah i have a website which is actually

4187
02:36:58,389 --> 02:36:56,319
my name

4188
02:37:01,429 --> 02:36:58,399
preston dennett the full address is

4189
02:37:05,670 --> 02:37:03,510
but if you just google my name it should

4190
02:37:08,389 --> 02:37:05,680
take you right to it and i've got all my

4191
02:37:10,550 --> 02:37:08,399
books on there and excerpts and you can

4192
02:37:13,510 --> 02:37:10,560
contact me through my website if you'd

4193
02:37:15,830 --> 02:37:13,520
like i always enjoy hearing from people

4194
02:37:18,150 --> 02:37:15,840
whether they've got a story to share or

4195
02:37:20,070 --> 02:37:18,160
just a question or whatever my books are

4196
02:37:21,830 --> 02:37:20,080
also available on amazon

4197
02:37:24,389 --> 02:37:21,840
not with here is the latest i'm putting

4198
02:37:26,309 --> 02:37:24,399
out a second volume shortly ufos over

4199
02:37:27,270 --> 02:37:26,319
arizona is next i got another one after

4200
02:37:29,110 --> 02:37:27,280
that

4201
02:37:30,790 --> 02:37:29,120
so i'm gonna be busy

4202
02:37:32,469 --> 02:37:30,800
and we'll have you back there for you'll

4203
02:37:34,630 --> 02:37:32,479
keep us in the loop about what you're

4204
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4209
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4210
02:37:50,349 --> 02:37:47,840
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4217
02:38:06,070 --> 02:38:02,240
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4218
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starting up with videos and more stuff

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i'm finally going to get up that first

4230
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chapter of the book that chris did with

4231
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ray stanford it's in my hands i will do

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preston dennett

4236
02:38:44,150 --> 02:38:42,880
thank you for joining us on the power

4237
02:38:46,550 --> 02:38:44,160
cast

4238
02:38:52,680 --> 02:38:46,560
thanks very much yeah i really enjoyed

4239
02:38:57,990 --> 02:38:54,830
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